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Um, actually TAP if I could make an adjustment to your statement:

 

You answered Zoe Grace's post by explaining that according to your personal interpretation and your specific religious sect's interpretation of certain verses, when the Bible refers to The Word.......it is talking about Christ.

 

Better? :grin:

 

Yes, Cerise. :grin:

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Not only is TAP a nice xian she is a super smart one too. HEHEHE.

 

Not so. For instance......

 

What the heck am I doing in the debate Forum again!!!?????

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You are searching from within by testing what you hold dear. Your friends are your sounding board. Just a guess....my bad. :shrug:

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Not so. For instance......

 

What the heck am I doing in the debate Forum again!!!?????

:blink:

 

 

Promises, promises...

 

The hardest ones to keep, are those we make to ourselves. :scratch:

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If you don't believe in God why would you evangelize using God's Word?

 

Good question. I wonder why most Christians haven't figured that one out yet. ;)

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Based on the available evidence jesus is the bible. :wicked:

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Based on the available evidence jesus is the bible.  :wicked:

 

You've got it backwards...... :nono:

 

When the Bible refers to The Word.....it's referring to Jesus.

 

Come on, now..........................it's not that difficult. ;)

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HEEHEE!

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thanks guys, why don't you just derail my thread a little more!?!?

 

:P:D

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You've got it backwards......  :nono:

 

When the Bible refers to The Word.....it's referring to Jesus.

 

Come on, now..........................it's not that difficult. ;)

 

You're right, it's not difficult at all.

 

 

Read slowly now: Jesus is just a word, or words for that matter.

 

This is what you're saying here, right? :scratch:

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You're right, it's not difficult at all.

Read slowly now: Jesus is just a word, or words for the matter.

 

This is what you're saying here, right?  :scratch:

 

I always thought that passage was an inside joke written by the bible writers. Or gnostic teaching. Something I don't get.

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I always thought that passage was an inside joke written by the bible writers. Or gnostic teaching. Something I don't get.

 

If you think about it, it's probably one of the most wide-open truths in the bible. :scratch:

 

What do you think?

 

 

Jesus is The Word! Meaning, "Hey everybody, this is just a story!"

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If you think about it, it's probably one of the most wide-open truths in the bible.  :scratch:

 

What do you think?

Jesus is The Word! Meaning, "Hey everybody, this is just a story!"

 

Yes. I think certain theories of paul were true. AUB

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AUB has something intersesting here.

 

Mythology

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Yes. I think certain theories of paul were true. AUB

 

Screw Paul. :Sheep:

 

Way too many people take this "Word" a

little too seriously when it comes to reality.

 

This "Word" which is "Christ" according to

this "Word" which is a bible, is nothing more

than just another idol no matter how one

wishes to look at it.

 

Without the "Word" read "Bible", there is

no "Christ" because "Christ" is "The Word".

 

 

(excuse me while I go and scratch my butt again.)

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When the Bible refers to The Word.....it's referring to Jesus.

 

 

TAP

 

You cannot make that assumption. "Word = Jesus" is true for the Gospel of John, but the bible is not one consistent book with consistent terminolgy.

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Screw Paul.  :Sheep:

 

Way too many people take this "Word" a

little too seriously when it comes to reality.

 

This "Word" which is "Christ" according to

this "Word" which is a bible, is nothing more

than just another idol no matter how one

wishes to look at it.

 

Without the "Word" read "Bible", there is

no "Christ" because "Christ" is "The Word".

(excuse me while I go and scratch my butt again.)

 

Hehe! Yes.

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AUB has something intersesting here.

 

Mythology

 

I checked this out.

 

Good'ol AUB tosses in some really good posts around here. :woohoo:

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For example, the totally different geneologies of Jesus in Luke and Matthew.  They both very clearly say that they trace the lineage of Joseph, but they cannot both be true.  It is not physically possible. 

Another example: Jeremiah says right in The Bible (Jeremiah 5:31) that the prophets prophecy falsely.  Perhaps he referred to 2 Kings 10:10-30, where God instructs the slaughter by Jehu (of the royal family), but in Hosea 1:4, He turns around and says He wants revenge for those who carried out the prophecy, and did His Dirty Work.  So Jeremiah was right.  God's prophets don't always get it right.  2 Kings 10:30 is a polar opposite of Hosea 1:4, and one or both must be false.

These are just two examples of obvious contradictions that cannot both be true, so there can never be any magic evidence that clears up the "problems"...

 

 

 

 

Sure, you are very right. But contradictions give better posibilities for future mutations of Christianity. A preacher can always find somthing in the bible to build his case on.

 

What a wonderful book :wicked:

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Sure, you are very right. But contradictions give better posibilities for future mutations of Christianity. A preacher can always find somthing in the bible to build his case on.

 

What a wonderful book  :wicked:

 

 

And there, you just nailed the power of The Lord! (read "word")

 

The contradictions!

 

You can make it say whatever you want it

to say for all times and in any generation.

 

 

Like I said a while back, the bible gives the illusion of

seeming eternal when it is in actuality, circular.

 

 

And since there's no other book like it, it has to be true!

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TAP may be mistaken about beliefs, but what she does and what she feels is based on truth. She is Godly in my opinion but not because of the bible and xianity. She is very intelligent and has class. I hope she doesn't take this thread the wrong way.

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Bringing Asimov's thread back to where it was in the beginning. Sorry, Asimov. :grin:

 

 

My final reply. The Word of God cannot reach someone who does not believe the Word of God is from God because they don't believe that there is a God to begin with.

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Which proves my point. Thank you, thankful.

 

 

my belief came to an end. It's words are now meaningless to me.

 

 

Don't worry......I got the "after thorough study" part. ;)

 

 

TAP

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