Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted August 21, 2014 Super Moderator Share Posted August 21, 2014 1AA1 ... To give you the benefit of the doubt, perhaps you did not understand my warning, as it was written in clear, articulate English. Allow me to translate it into your language: "A11A yu ar nto oyln in dager fo bing manpulted, yo re aktualy in teh prosecc of beng maniplated. Menepulatins in yor thogth processses aer cuasing a dilusoin thta maks itslef so wheell htat uoy re unalbe to see ti fro yoself. Yo hav a menial verus tha your are unawrae of. Fortunitly, they're is a ceur. Consdier yorslef warmed." Prof, I don't think he got it... But I got my dose of endorphins for the day. lol Human i got it, He speaks my language. iI was just busy responding to posts at the time but now that i have SILENCED my opponets, now i can respond. it was a classic. See People with humor thats what we need to see. A11A you are not only in danger of being manipulated, you are actually in the process of being manipulated.----- aah crap cant finish the rest Dang my head hurts, NOOOWW i see your paiiinnN!!! I know have a newly Evolved Language Cthcdmbd Hr Trdkdrr!! You havent evolved yet to see what i see Muwahaha actually speaking of evolution Take a look at the next humans http://blog.newegg.com/transhumanists-pushing-stage-evolution/ http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/152240-what-is-transhumanism-or-what-does-it-mean-to-be-human You know, even as a former Pentecostal who had the gifts of tongues and the gift of interpretations, I still can't sit through more than a sentence this guy writes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pratt Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Florduh I seen you in a facebook page. I know who you are.....is this the part when you run? since you know who is flotrduh in FB, and you threaten him,,,,, would you not let us know your true identity? since god is for you, who are we against you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1AcceptingAThiest1 Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 pratt my humor sucks most people know that by now, i dont have florduh facebook page. haha Im too small to threaten im 5'3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought2Much Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 It breaks my heart that you will never taste the sweet rewards of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. How about I send you a tract and knock on your door at dinner time? Oh, is that just my silly belief that has no evidence? You don't believe that unfounded crap? Should I make you listen to me anyway since I'm right and you're obviously wrong? I would love to recognize you as a fellow pastafarian, but I have a very important question I need to ask first: tomato sauce or meat sauce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipVanWinkle Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I'm really sorry that I got into this thread so late. Probably too late for anyone to read my post. Well that' s okay because you have been told the truth repeatedly and yet still don't see. But you have gotten me so frustrated that I am compelled to vent my spleen. 1AcceptingAtheist1, forgive my French, but your mind is really fucked up. I think (despite your grammar) that you are very smart. But when one is brainwashed all the intelligence does is equip him to make a lot of arguments others would not think of, but are wrong. Nevertheless it equips you to make arguments that are illogical, even though they may sound good to yourself and the uninformed. Suppose you truly believed that the water system in your city was poisoned by terrorists. God had told you so. You believe in god, God would not lie to you. So you go to the city water department and tell them their water is poisoned, They tell you that it is not poisoned, The water had been tested properly that very day and it passed the test. You explain that the tests do not mean the water is safe. Terrorists have a new kind of poison that can't be tested by currently effective means. The city asks you what evidence you have of your claim. Well, you tell them you don't have evidence recognized by scientists, but you know it's true because you prayed about it and god answered, telling you that the water is poisoned and tests will not show that. God never lies, you tell the City. But they are adamant in their denial. The city representative asks you if you know of anyone who has been hurt by the consumption of water. No, you don't know any specifics, but if no one has been injured they surely will be if the proper action is not taken, The city refuses to alter its position. Well you are a faithful Xtian and you are genuinely concerned for the health and welfare of the citizens. What to do? God would disapprove of your failing to alert the people. I mean he would really be pissed. So you come up with a plan: You will call a meeting of your Xtian friends that very night to discuss your plan. It involves warning notices of the poisonous water via the internet, radio time, TV time, volunteers to drive through as many neighborhoods as possible with drivers equipped with loud speakers, door to door volunteers to get out the warning. The Lord must have made this happen because the whole city was notified within 48 hours. What will happen in that city in the response by citizens to the notification? You know as well as I do. Panic. City wide panic. But it had to be done, didn't it? God said so. Massive deaths and sickness would otherwise occur. But the water did not turn out to be poisoned. You must have misunderstood god. Maybe you got the date wrong. Maybe it was next week. You will have to pray and ask god what you got wrong. The only thing different in substance between this story and your pitch to people that hell is real is that we can't test to find hell. Well, actually we have. Space has been explored within our scientific ability and no hell was found. But just like the poison in the city water might not be testable, so hell might exist where we haven't looked. If you think that city water would cause panic, but hell would not, I suggest to you that in the long run; a false notice of hell would be much more damaging than the rumor of poisoned water, Indeed look at the history of Xtiaity if you want to know what damage a false claim of hell can do. Just how do you explain hell to those people who want you to talk to about xtianity? If you insist on telling them, at least tell them that there is no scientific or other evidence that hell exists. That there are many Xtians who don't believe in hell. That you believe that no one but Xtians will avoid hell, not even ignorant people in third worlds countries who never heard of Christ.. That many Xtians who don't believe in hell believe that its concept is too cruel for the Xtian god to countenance. That the Hebrews didn't have a belief in hell, but it appeared in the NT for (or against) Xtians, That the concept of hell originated before Xtianity in the Greek pagan religions, I could go on and on. The point is that if you insist on putting the fear of hell into the minds of people you try to convert to Xtianity, at least do it honestly. Disclose the fact that it is only a belief, rather than a proven fact. Tell them there is no hard or soft evidence to support the belief. Tell them that most religions in the world do not believe in hell. In other words, have compassion for these people. Don't implant a fear in them that may be with them the rest of their lives. bill 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator florduh Posted August 22, 2014 Super Moderator Share Posted August 22, 2014 I would love to recognize you as a fellow pastafarian, but I have a very important question I need to ask first: tomato sauce or meat sauce? Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Florduh I seen you in a facebook page. I know who you are.....is this the part when you run? Would you go easy on Hugh Laurie. Not only is he a great actor but he takes time out of his busy day to moderate our forum. Give him a break. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipVanWinkle Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 RNP: What a biting sense of humor you have, I'm going to be more careful about what I say to you in the future. You could do permanent damage, bill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disillusioned Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 "A11A yu ar nto oyln in dager fo bing manpulted, yo re aktualy in teh prosecc of beng maniplated. Menepulatins in yor thogth processses aer cuasing a dilusoin thta maks itslef so wheell htat uoy re unalbe to see ti fro yoself. Yo hav a menial verus tha your are unawrae of. Fortunitly, they're is a ceur. Consdier yorslef warmed." Thanks for that prof. I needed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moanareina Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 moanerina a relationship wouldnt be meaningless if love existed in a world without pain or suffering relationship would probably be even mroe fulffilling lol. OK, lets go there again. Assume the story would have been slightly different. Assume there has been original sin like the one of Adam and Eve. There have been all the consequences (like hate, murder, being unkind to others etc.). But. Also assume Jesus came to die on the cross and all. Then assume HELL does not exist and HEAVEN does not exist either. Just assume. Assume that consequences of sin is annihilation (you cease to exist when you die). Assume that the offering of Jesus has no other meaning then letting humans know God is not mad at them. Just assume. Would you want to follow this God and if so why? Would you feel the urge to tell other people of your God and if so why? If not why not? And please assume and give me an answer to my question instead of a: oh if men never sinned it would all be happy dappy fluffy bunny peaceful and great lala talk. By the way, have you watched the video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moanareina Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 pratt my humor sucks most people know that by now, i dont have florduh facebook page. haha Im too small to threaten im 5'3 The problem of your humor is...you use it to protect yourself. And when you do that humor becomes petty and makes you appear to be without any respect. Once you let go of the urge to defend your believes because you realize that if they are true, there is no need to, once you realize there is no need to run around and save people from hell, that this is not even the Gospel your bible is telling you to bring to the people, your humor becomes more substantial and fun. It will be relaxed humor instead of tense humor...if that makes sense to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted August 22, 2014 Super Moderator Share Posted August 22, 2014 "A11A yu ar nto oyln in dager fo bing manpulted, yo re aktualy in teh prosecc of beng maniplated. Menepulatins in yor thogth processses aer cuasing a dilusoin thta maks itslef so wheell htat uoy re unalbe to see ti fro yoself. Yo hav a menial verus tha your are unawrae of. Fortunitly, they're is a ceur. Consdier yorslef warmed." Thanks for that prof. I needed it. You're quite welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubtingNate Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 its not about whats real This pretty much sums it up for me. What the fuck else would it be about then??? Also, grammar and punctuation is your friend! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought2Much Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 1AA1 I have already warned you that you are suffering from a delusion that is the result of mental manipulations. Yet, rather than take my warning to heart and focus on rooting out from your mind the very thing that blinds you to your condition; you persist in reveling in your delusion and pontificating upon the very foundations of the mental manipulations which deceive you as though you had not been warned. You contradict yourself when you say you feel a responsibility to warn us about the dangers of hell, but refuse to acknowledge or act upon a warning against delusion and misperceptions. Shore this behavior up, or risk being labelled a disingenuous troll. To give you the benefit of the doubt, perhaps you did not understand my warning, as it was written in clear, articulate English. Allow me to translate it into your language: "A11A yu ar nto oyln in dager fo bing manpulted, yo re aktualy in teh prosecc of beng maniplated. Menepulatins in yor thogth processses aer cuasing a dilusoin thta maks itslef so wheell htat uoy re unalbe to see ti fro yoself. Yo hav a menial verus tha your are unawrae of. Fortunitly, they're is a ceur. Consdier yorslef warmed." My only regret is that I have but one upvote to give for this post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought2Much Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I would love to recognize you as a fellow pastafarian, but I have a very important question I need to ask first: tomato sauce or meat sauce? Yes! HERETIC! APASTATE! Everyone knows in their heart that the tomato sauce is the only acceptable covering for the Flying Spaghetti Monster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator florduh Posted August 22, 2014 Super Moderator Share Posted August 22, 2014 I would love to recognize you as a fellow pastafarian, but I have a very important question I need to ask first: tomato sauce or meat sauce? Yes! HERETIC! APASTATE! Everyone knows in their heart that the tomato sauce is the only acceptable covering for the Flying Spaghetti Monster! Sorry, this is the Tuscan Orthodox view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExCBooster Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Okay, so, until exactly this point, I was happy to sit in the bleachers and eat popcorn, but I think it's time I engage. The thing is, 1AcceptingAThiest1, just as there are Christians on this site, there is at least one of us who wasn't ever Christian at all. That would be me. I did read your testimonial - both the previous version, and the one at the beginning of this thread. If you really want to practice what you preach, let's "treat each other as individuals": please don't generalize about me, based on your experiences. If a personal "testimonial" holds any weight - and, given your use of them as the backbone of your position thus far, I have to assume you do believe it must - then, why not consider this: my experience isn't like yours. I'm not angry, actually, when people preach. I get angry with injustice, hypocrisy, cruelty. Being angry at a belief is as nonsensical to me as being angry at a color, or anything else that people sense or feel. I argue with people, because I respect their intelligence, not because I feel upset or threatened. If I do get angry with something you've said - and, so far, I'm not - be open to the idea that it's not because of your beliefs, but because they cross some moral line. I'm still not a Christian. Sure, I have plenty of reasons, if you wish to go there - another thread, perhaps, when I get back from work, today - but the point is, if you consider personal experiences evidence, there will always be people like me: different people, different experiences, different results. No way to distinguish them but independent means. That's why personal experiences are all very well and good, but they hold no weight in a debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thackerie Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 1AA1 ... To give you the benefit of the doubt, perhaps you did not understand my warning, as it was written in clear, articulate English. Allow me to translate it into your language: "A11A yu ar nto oyln in dager fo bing manpulted, yo re aktualy in teh prosecc of beng maniplated. Menepulatins in yor thogth processses aer cuasing a dilusoin thta maks itslef so wheell htat uoy re unalbe to see ti fro yoself. Yo hav a menial verus tha your are unawrae of. Fortunitly, they're is a ceur. Consdier yorslef warmed." Prof, I don't think he got it... But I got my dose of endorphins for the day. I think it goes beyond bad grammar and poor spelling. I think the guy actually has a severe case of dyslexia —sort of like the agnostic, dyslexic insomniac who stayed awake all night wondering if there really is a Dog. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1AcceptingAThiest1 Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 pratt my humor sucks most people know that by now, i dont have florduh facebook page. haha Im too small to threaten im 5'3 The problem of your humor is...you use it to protect yourself. And when you do that humor becomes petty and makes you appear to be without any respect. Once you let go of the urge to defend your believes because you realize that if they are true, there is no need to, once you realize there is no need to run around and save people from hell, that this is not even the Gospel your bible is telling you to bring to the people, your humor becomes more substantial and fun. It will be relaxed humor instead of tense humor...if that makes sense to you. lol humor isnt my defense because no one is attacking me haha, People dont even know how to attack me, no one here phases me in terms of insults, people here are ncie to me and loving to me no one is attackign me so there is no reason to DEFEND. when people do attack i dont get hurt because of disappointments or disagreements, that strengthens me, i eat it, then the melatonin kicks in and i get sleepy. at work will resond to other posts in a few escuse me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1AcceptingAThiest1 Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 Ahh thanks Thackerie for the laugh great minds think alike, only one of our minds is on another world, probably mine, but thats okay they know me there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1AcceptingAThiest1 Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 you all can watch porn until i get back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 you all can watch porn until i get back Oh, good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thackerie Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Ahh thanks Thackerie for the laugh great minds think alike, only one of our minds is on another world, probably mine, but thats okay they know me there Glad you appreciate my weird sense of humor. But, I'm not joking about the possibility of you having dyslexia, and I'm not making fun of you. It's a very common problem and nothing to be ashamed of. Very smart people can be dyslexic. I suggest that you learn more about dyslexia, figure out if that's your problem, and see if you can get help with managing it. Here's a good website to check: http://www.ncld.org/types-learning-disabilities/dyslexia/common-dyslexia-symptoms-and-warning-signs-in-adults Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1AcceptingAThiest1 Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 aw thx i appreciate that, although its not dyslexic when i write things on paper my grammar is flawless. Online its jsut me trying to type too fast during work hours without having the time to go back and check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moanareina Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 pratt my humor sucks most people know that by now, i dont have florduh facebook page. haha Im too small to threaten im 5'3 The problem of your humor is...you use it to protect yourself. And when you do that humor becomes petty and makes you appear to be without any respect. Once you let go of the urge to defend your believes because you realize that if they are true, there is no need to, once you realize there is no need to run around and save people from hell, that this is not even the Gospel your bible is telling you to bring to the people, your humor becomes more substantial and fun. It will be relaxed humor instead of tense humor...if that makes sense to you. lol humor isnt my defense because no one is attacking me haha, People dont even know how to attack me, no one here phases me in terms of insults, people here are ncie to me and loving to me no one is attackign me so there is no reason to DEFEND. when people do attack i dont get hurt because of disappointments or disagreements, that strengthens me, i eat it, then the melatonin kicks in and i get sleepy. at work will resond to other posts in a few escuse me Sorry but really, just this post is a confirmation of my feeling that you use humor or lets say you put lol and haha and stuff like that everywhere in your responses because you need some sort of protection shield. That does not mean that anyone is attacking you. You are clearly defending your believes here...and when you say you don't get hurt when people attack you I simply don't believe you. If it was true that you don't feel you had to defend something like your believes for example, there would be a different reaction from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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