My pastor denied my gender

[OrdinaryClay]

On 9/8/2019 at 3:55 PM, Hole_In_My_Heart said:

 

I appreciate the nod to the non-binary, thank you! I've studied the original Hebrew, and I feel confident that it does in fact describe a person of nonspecific gender being created, and then split into 2 people each of which had a gender… Not that it matters, just as a point of interest.

Really? So are there Hebrew Scholars that have peer reviewed your conclusions? What do they think?

[OrdinaryClay]

On 9/8/2019 at 4:16 PM, TheRedneckProfessor said:

 

Yes, it is.  It is a common enough teaching that I heard it taught in several different environments ranging from the very traditional to the more extremist of pentecostalism.  It may not be accepted as orthodox or canonical in most denominations; but it is a fairly common teaching.

I don't believe your claim.

 

Did you get an ex-christian promotion to moderator? Does that mean you are no longer an acolyte of some kind?

[OrdinaryClay]

On 9/9/2019 at 4:50 AM, Hole_In_My_Heart said:

 

This one might be a little too dense in Hebrew, but maybe it will help:

 

https://margmowczko.com/human-man-woman-genesis-2/

 

So this patriarchal BS you see throughout most of Christianity, that man was created first and therefore is somehow superior, is not in fact backed up by the Bible... Surprise surprise. 

 

Doesn't it seem suspect that centuries of scholars never realized this until the 21st century explosion of gender confusion.

[OrdinaryClay]

On 9/9/2019 at 7:49 AM, Hole_In_My_Heart said:

 

Most churches don't go as in-depth into the original languages as that article does,

Seminaries do though, and the students at seminaries go out and teach and lead the churches in America.

[TheRedneckProfessor]

1 hour ago, OrdinaryClay said:

I don't believe your claim.

No you know how we feel.

[TheRedneckProfessor]

1 hour ago, OrdinaryClay said:

Doesn't it seem suspect that centuries of scholars never realized this until the 21st century explosion of gender confusion.

It's no more suspect than slavery being scriptural until the 1860s.

[OrdinaryClay]

4 minutes ago, TheRedneckProfessor said:

It's no more suspect than slavery being scriptural until the 1860s.

Huh? You are confused. No one claimed radical new original language interpretations in the 1860s.

[OrdinaryClay]

9 minutes ago, TheRedneckProfessor said:

No you know how we feel.

I'm sure I don't.

[TheRedneckProfessor]

3 minutes ago, OrdinaryClay said:

Huh? You are confused. No one claimed radical new original language interpretations in the 1860s.

You are confused.  This is neither radical, nor is it new.

[nontheistpilgrim]

On 9/15/2019 at 7:16 PM, OrdinaryClay said:

So what exactly is a non-theist pilgrim? Sounds kind of spiritual.

Definition of a pilgrimage: the course of life on earth.

Religious people aren't the only ones to walk and learn: from what I am reading here you don't seem to want to grow in knowledge. Something I am pleased to have done on this Forum with the help of others.

Still learning. Still on my pilgrimage.