Grandpa Harley Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 If, at the end of my life, I know I've made someone feel violently ill, say something nasty to a friend, or perhaps strike a loved one, I shall know it was not in vain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 OMG!!! How blasphemous!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Harley Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 What can I say... I've had years of practice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veil Posted May 23, 2007 Author Share Posted May 23, 2007 Yes so true HanSoloI can see the opinions working their will within the words of each Book It is hard to break free of the programming of Parents; who have taught you what you should believe? I guess that is why I say its time to find out what’s in the hart. But Now I am found not to be expectable by those that told me how to believe? So I thought I would drop by this forum and hear what others feel and think about Gods At this stage; To ME every opinion is worth respect; SERIOUSLY IT FEELS SO GOOD TO READ WHAT YOU WROTE; AND BE FREE ENOUGH TO AGREE. Yes. I'm free from the belief my parents taught me. I did try my own heart, and I know what's in it. My feeling and thoughts about God is as follows:... .... .... nothing, because I don't think he exists. I do have a lot to say about people beliefs about god though. There are things to be said regarding how, what, why, when and who, but nothing really can be said about a imaginary being outside of existence. I'm glad that you feel free so you can agree. Thanks HanSolo' That helps I guess it takes time to unwind from you’ll rot in hell if your not at church? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veil Posted May 23, 2007 Author Share Posted May 23, 2007 If, at the end of my life, I know I've made someone feel violently ill, say something nasty to a friend, or perhaps strike a loved one, I shall know it was not in vain... Datt”s way way too Angry But still I give you 10 out 10 for honesty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veil Posted May 23, 2007 Author Share Posted May 23, 2007 Do violence to no man You'd better tell "God" that. source - http://www.evilbible.com/ God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21). God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3). He orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses” (Joshua 6). In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife! Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody! In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church! In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered. Hi As far as I can see Jun; you sound like you have faith and believe that God exists? And you hold him responsible for the killing and lose of life? I also need time to understand what language you all speck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Harley Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 If, at the end of my life, I know I've made someone feel violently ill, say something nasty to a friend, or perhaps strike a loved one, I shall know it was not in vain... Datt”s way way too Angry But still I give you 10 out 10 for honesty I stole it from the cooling grasp of Tom Lehrer, a satirist and comedian of note in the 1950s... I just embellished it a bit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Harley Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Hi As far as I can see Jun; you sound like you have faith and believe that God exists? And you hold him responsible for the killing and lose of life? I also need time to understand what language you all speck? When speaking of an imaginary friend to someone who believes in aformentioned imaginary friend, one often speaks as though the friend exists. It's a common psychological strategem to lead the person out of delusion... Believing in the God of the bible as the one true god is a bit like taking notice of the voice in your head that tells you to 'kill or kill again' or says 'that waitress is a WHORE running round naked under her clothes like that tempting you...' The God of the Abrahamic cults is a bloody handed demon. There again, I'd have been tortured and executed 300 years ago as a heretic and a Gnostic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veil Posted May 23, 2007 Author Share Posted May 23, 2007 If, at the end of my life, I know I've made someone feel violently ill, say something nasty to a friend, or perhaps strike a loved one, I shall know it was not in vain... Datt”s way way too Angry But still I give you 10 out 10 for honesty I stole it from the cooling grasp of Tom Lehrer, a satirist and comedian of note in the 1950s... I just embellished it a bit... LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veil Posted May 23, 2007 Author Share Posted May 23, 2007 Hi As far as I can see Jun; you sound like you have faith and believe that God exists? And you hold him responsible for the killing and lose of life? I also need time to understand what language you all speck? When speaking of an imaginary friend to someone who believes in aformentioned imaginary friend, one often speaks as though the friend exists. It's a common psychological strategem to lead the person out of delusion... Believing in the God of the bible as the one true god is a bit like taking notice of the voice in your head that tells you to 'kill or kill again' or says 'that waitress is a WHORE running round naked under her clothes like that tempting you...' The God of the Abrahamic cults is a bloody handed demon. There again, I'd have been tortured and executed 300 years ago as a heretic and a Gnostic... O GOOD.... Do you BELEIVE IN REINCARNATION THEN? Hey Christians can't even agree on one true God; the whole bunch of them; fight all day; hating each other. No I don't feel God exists as a being; more of a substance that forms hope of a better existence to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jun Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Do violence to no man You'd better tell "God" that. source - http://www.evilbible.com/ God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21). God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3). He orders another attack and the killing of "all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses" (Joshua 6). In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife! Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody! In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church! In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered. Hi As far as I can see Jun; you sound like you have faith and believe that God exists? And you hold him responsible for the killing and lose of life? I also need time to understand what language you all speck? I can't see how you came by that conclusion?! God does not exist, it's a delusion, existing only within your mind. I do not believe in anything that could even remotely be called "God." Faith? "Faith is deciding to allow yourself to believe something that your intellect would otherwise cause you to reject" I can't hold "God" responsible for anything - because "God" doesn't exist; a figment of a delusioned mind. When speaking of an imaginary friend to someone who believes in aformentioned imaginary friend, one often speaks as though the friend exists. It's a common psychological strategem to lead the person out of delusion... Way to go Gramps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veil Posted May 23, 2007 Author Share Posted May 23, 2007 Do violence to no man You'd better tell "God" that. source - http://www.evilbible.com/ God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21). God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3). He orders another attack and the killing of "all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses" (Joshua 6). In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife! Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody! In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church! In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered. Hi As far as I can see Jun; you sound like you have faith and believe that God exists? And you hold him responsible for the killing and lose of life? I also need time to understand what language you all speck? I can't see how you came by that conclusion?! God does not exist, it's a delusion, existing only within your mind. I do not believe in anything that could even remotely be called "God." Faith? "Faith is deciding to allow yourself to believe something that your intellect would otherwise cause you to reject" I can't hold "God" responsible for anything - because "God" doesn't exist; a figment of a delusioned mind. Hmm Okay for a moment I thought I had picked a forum that did not suitable? And then I looked again! And yes it was for Ex-Christian.Net Forums?? Not that I would complain about the company round here So what then is the definition of Ex-Christian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jun Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 So what then is the definition of Ex-Christian? "Used to be Christians until we realised it's all bullsh!t." There is no definition of "Christian" that would prevent a person from being an ex-Christian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veil Posted May 23, 2007 Author Share Posted May 23, 2007 Well anyway I think the rapture the second coming OF CHRIST is fiction The book left behind is even written as fiction; and they still don’t get it? Kinder disappointing in a way the sooner that lot get removed to their paridise hence The faster we can all enjoy the earth and their swimming pools? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veil Posted May 23, 2007 Author Share Posted May 23, 2007 So what then is the definition of Ex-Christian? "Used to be Christians until we realised it's all bullsh!t." There is no definition of "Christian" that would prevent a person from being an ex-Christian. Personally I find Christian a "very dirty" word these days? Likening it to.... once “Gay” meant a happy person I’m glad you found your way out Many can't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jun Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Well anyway I think the rapture the second coming OF CHRIST is fictionThe book left behind is even written as fiction; and they still don't get it? Kinder disappointing in a way the sooner that lot get removed to their paridise hence The faster we can all enjoy the earth and their swimming pools? True Guidance, I mean Veil, are you serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veil Posted May 23, 2007 Author Share Posted May 23, 2007 Well anyway I think the rapture the second coming OF CHRIST is fictionThe book left behind is even written as fiction; and they still don't get it? Kinder disappointing in a way the sooner that lot get removed to their paridise hence The faster we can all enjoy the earth and their swimming pools? True Guidance, I mean Veil, are you serious? very serious Jun... the rapture is BS The bible dose not support its claim; Its grew from 3 verses fuddled up and around? And some good con's.... SWIPING MONEY OUT OF PEOPLE For exchanged confirmed united rapturlines tickets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jun Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Well anyway I think the rapture the second coming OF CHRIST is fictionThe book left behind is even written as fiction; and they still don't get it? Kinder disappointing in a way the sooner that lot get removed to their paridise hence The faster we can all enjoy the earth and their swimming pools? True Guidance, I mean Veil, are you serious? very serious Jun... the rapture is BS The bible dose not support its claim; Its grew from 3 verses fuddled up and around? And some good con's.... SWIPING MONEY OUT OF PEOPLE For exchanged confirmed united rapturlines tickets I'll let you in on a little secret - God is BS too, and Jesus, and Allah, and Vishnu, and Mars, and Zeus, and .............. Go to my website, read the comic entitled The subject of god. Oh, and I don't know what this "rapture" stuff is about 'cause I'm not American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Harley Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Most 'First World' American Christians think the rapture is bullshit. Unfortunately it's the second and third world Americans who believe in that garbage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotBlinded Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 veil? You talk funny... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Harley Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 It reads as either English as second or third language... or tertiary syphillis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veil Posted May 24, 2007 Author Share Posted May 24, 2007 Well anyway I think the rapture the second coming OF CHRIST is fictionThe book left behind is even written as fiction; and they still don't get it? Kinder disappointing in a way the sooner that lot get removed to their paridise hence The faster we can all enjoy the earth and their swimming pools? True Guidance, I mean Veil, are you serious? very serious Jun... the rapture is BS The bible dose not support its claim; Its grew from 3 verses fuddled up and around? And some good con's.... SWIPING MONEY OUT OF PEOPLE For exchanged confirmed united rapturlines tickets I'll let you in on a little secret - God is BS too, and Jesus, and Allah, and Vishnu, and Mars, and Zeus, and .............. cool... can we still be friends all BS aside.... even your own ideas? Go to my website, read the comic entitled The subject of god. Oh, and I don't know what this "rapture" stuff is about 'cause I'm not American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veil Posted May 24, 2007 Author Share Posted May 24, 2007 veil? You talk funny... errr sorry notblindedbytheblight....I'll do my best.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veil Posted May 24, 2007 Author Share Posted May 24, 2007 Most 'First World' American Christians think the rapture is bullshit. Unfortunately it's the second and third world Americans who believe in that garbage... Either way, they are all waiting for him to come; and then he shall smack the hands of those that would not beleive; and squash them between his toes like grapes; Any way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veil Posted May 24, 2007 Author Share Posted May 24, 2007 It reads as either English as second or third language... or tertiary syphillis... Hmmm ...so you think I'm getting my mucken words fuddled abit grandpa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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