Ouroboros Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 How can you argue that, I did not create myself. No one "created" you. You came from the womb of your mom. There were no one picking up a box of lego and building you piece by piece. It came by natural order. The whole "create" idea is a human concept of what humans do and nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest end3 Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Yes, I evolved from creation. No, really, how do you account for the matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_raven23 Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 How can you argue that, I did not create myself. Not physically, but Han covered that. But as for the "who" of you....that is another matter entirely. We learn from experience, and that helps to shape who we are as children, when we are young we simply react to things. But as adults, we can choose to a certain extent how we are going to react to an experience. Seeing the glass half empty, half full, or floating in midair.....your outlook and positive or negative view of life depends on how you choose to see it. So the "who" of you, your personality and that which makes you who you are, ARE a matter of choice (not always an easy choice, but still a choice). So you do create yourself. Whether you do so passively or actively is a matter of choice, understanding, and self-awareness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest end3 Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest end3 Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 I can see that argument. When we give something to God, it would be like, "I choose to ingnore it" in the natural, and it either manifests something or goes away. I can go there. I can't go there because of the physical. Disregarding life after, where is the ability to create matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Harley Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 thinking Yet another filthy lie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest end3 Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Gotta be on the field to get hit....have you ever done anything physically challenging GH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_raven23 Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Disregarding life after, where is the ability to create matter? You really are going to have to be more specific. What kind of matter are you talking about? Organic matter replicates or reproduces according to how it's DNA or RNA is coded and uses small trace elements needed of inorganic and other organic matter obtained through consumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♦ nivek ♦ Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 thinking Yeah, me too.. Stroking the big Red Butt0n Of D00m also.... kFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Harley Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Gotta be on the field to get hit....have you ever done anything physically challenging GH? More gibberish... what do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Disregarding life after, where is the ability to create matter? In vacuum energy, quantum entanglement and in the membranes of the multiverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Harley Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 thinking Yeah, me too.. Stroking the big Red Butt0n Of D00m also.... kFL You need a white fluffy cat and Nehru suit in grey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♦ nivek ♦ Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 thinking Yeah, me too.. Stroking the big Red Butt0n Of D00m also.... kFL You need a white fluffy cat and Nehru suit in grey... White denim shirt and a widdle bite-y almost white pup do? That be pretty much all the *reality* here until next shipment of choco-covered red pills arrive.. k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Harley Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 OK, so you're more the poet-warrior in the classic sense rather than the Criminal Mastermind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest end3 Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Push the damn button if you want to, it would be much the same as poor Christian indoctrination....your going to Hell boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 The Troll is coming out of the closet! Why are you so angry End3? The Holy Spirit doesn't give you peace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Harley Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 I thought the foul smelling goat eaters lived under bridges... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest end3 Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 No, I said that in humor, as I knew they could not see the relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest end3 Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 I would not mind the discussion, but in leiu of answering the matter question, the big guy comes with his button threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Harley Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 The matter question? In our universe matter is the easiest way to store energy... if it weren't then we'd see something else (well, we wouldn't since a universe without matter is pretty much a prerequisite for the kind of life we are) I thought Han had answered it. Man has created and destroyed matter (getting a particle to try and exceed the speed of light in a medium produces ÄŒerenkov radiation... effectively photons condensing out of the excess energy as it tries to go faster than the speed of light and it can't. In the bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, calculations indicated that we annihilated a volume of matter about the dimensions of an American 1 cent piece in each bomb... and we've blown a lot of A-bombs since.) Like you'd understand the answer... dolt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_raven23 Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 End3.... the guys have answered you. Just because you cannot understand the answer due to lack of knowledge (heck my own understanding of quantum anything is nearly nonexistent....so you aren't alone) doesn't mean the answer is false. Just because I've never taken a physics class doesn't mean the laws of physics don't apply to me. And you not knowing an answer, doesn't mean "goddidit". Later edit : Hey cool. Physics for Dummies is available at my local Borders. I'm going to pick that up after work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest end3 Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 In all seriousness, it is amazing that someone could condense light from nowhere, if I am understanding. Or, for that matter, do the calculations. What do you want me to say now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 In all seriousness, it is amazing that someone could condense light from nowhere, if I am understanding. Or, for that matter, do the calculations. What do you want me to say now. My head is spinning... "condense light from nowhere"... in what sense? And who? And where? What? Light is energy... sooooo what does that mean... that Light is Energy... Or do you mean "Condense" in the same way as a laser, or something else? Are you using a computer right now? I can safely assume that you do. Does it have a red or blue light somewhere? Most likely you do. That little light bulb is a LED, which is a technology that uses some basic, really low level, physical theories, that actually works. It creates light from energy through some electrons that are jumping from one level to another, and the energy in this case is electricity, which comes from motion of electrons, which in turn comes from the motion of the water in the damm or somewhere else... So how can someone create light from water? Well, that's happening just now in front of your eyes. Isn't that amazing? Does that make Voltair, Hertz, Ampere and the other guys into some semi-gods, or is it just part of reality that this is how nature works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest end3 Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 I think I am going to push my own button of doom on this one.....My physics knowledge is limited, (until I choose otherwise), and most important, you have helped me to understand how important it is not to jump on the bandwagon. Until then, I shall wait to for the annoucement of the all new sunset or star alignment set for some Tuesday night in the future. I am sure it will play in Vegas. Adios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Adios End3. Take care of yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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