Hey Christians! I dare you to pray for me.

[Curtdude]

 

Yoyo,

 

You said, "I prayed. I pray that God will reveal His answers to Curt, to help him."

 

There, finally a prayer has been uttered for me. Thank you. Now we'll see what happens.

[quicksand]

Yoyo,

 

You said, "I prayed. I pray that God will reveal His answers to Curt, to help him."

 

There, finally a prayer has been uttered for me.  Thank you.  Now we'll see what happens.

How long should we wait Curt to conclude this experiment is at a close? I mean, Christians keep moving the goal posts around for Armageddon, so I suspect Yo! Yo will do the same here. And if the god-fella is sooooo mighty powerful, then what's keeping him from getting off his lazy-resting seveth-day butt and do the miracle already? He's got plenty of time to iconize his girlfriend/daughter all over the place - cheese sandwiches, knots of trees, office windows, etc...

 

So when?

[Purple Rhino]

... I prophecy that sometime this week Curtdude, IBF and TFT and PR will have homosexual intercourse with their perspective partners.

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TY TY TY TY TY TY SerenityNow!!

 

 

I better change the sheets now!

 

PR

[Vixentrox]

Paul had a prophecy about todays times. Didnt he?

2 Tim 3:1-9

1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.

(KJV)

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This is different then any other time in history how? Harly a prohecy. That's like saying that people will breath air in the future.

[Curtdude]

Come on now Curt, you know god helps those who help themselves.  You gotta give him a little help.  Peel that rainbow sticker off your car.  Pour that evil Bordeux down the sewer (it's a patriotic act you know?) and run down and buy yourself a case of Budweiser.  Stop checking to see if your shoes match your belt and just stay untucked instead.  Just for kicks, try changing your own oil next time your car is in need.  And for god's sake, watch The Man Show. 

 

{just kidding Curt}

 

Oh Vigile, what a wonderful post. See what happens when you live in a beautiful place like St. Petersburg? Witty and bitchy repartee simply follows.

 

I'll need a car first to get that rainbow sticker stuck to! But the bordeux down the terlet? Well, if Yoyo's prayers are answered according to the will of God, I'll be one fine specimen of hetero man love and buy FreedomFermentation instead. (Sorry, but I've already got the case of bud; see comment on being butch.) Belt and shoes...hemmmm, you caught me there. Haha, The Man Show cracks me up: I'll use it as a barometer if God has changed my heart with all the buxom babes who get the crowd yellin.

[Abiyoyo]

Well howdy Yoyo, we've met before.  Thanks for the response.

 

I've noted in the past that you rhetorically ask questions that really are cries for help, meaning that it's YOU we're talking about, not me. For example: "What does a Christian heterosexual man do when he is consumed with pornography and intense sexual fantasies? Or How does this same man handle a continuing thought process of someone other than his wife?"  Since I've never been a heterosexual, I cannot possibly respond to your first question. 

 

Why must we answer your problem with lust in order to address "the homosexual side of sexual immorality"?  I don't get it AT ALL.

 

I thought this thread was about ME!    But no, we've got to somehow turn it into a help line for all of you True Believers who already have the promises of your god to deliever you.  Ask your god to heal you, then pray for me to deliver me from homosexuality.

 

Why is it so damned difficult to stay on track?

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Its not about me my friend, but entirely about you.

 

I thank God everyday that I have the love for my wife that I have. I rest in that the Lord created man and woman, and designed us this way. I rest in my wife for my fleshly desires.

 

Prov 5:19

19 Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love.

(KJV)

 

 

There is a way and path set in front of any person, whether they are heterosexual or homosexual. If you are born with this type of condition and you cant help that you can only have sexual relations with a man, and women repulse you, then I would either assume that God would take that out of you, by a wanting of it out for God, or would pardon the condition.

 

I, nor anyone else knows the hearts and thoughts of another. There is one who does though, and if you have battled and told God that you want to rid yourself these thoughts and lifestyle, then he hears you.

 

Like I said, many people, of whom claim Jesus as there Lord, battle with what they see as right or wrong everyday. Just like you are, or not.

 

If God isnt involved at all then you are simply badgering Christians that have influenced you in some way throughout this process.

 

All in all, dont blame me, or expect me to heal you, when I ask every day for God to heal things in my life that I want out. I want them out to serve and worship in full, not to go to church and tell a bunch of people that I can join there block party now that I have been cleansed. Worship, not image.

[Curtdude]

Curtdude, I'm sorry for hijacking your thread.  My intentions were to find out WHY you shouldn't be prayed for and instantly "cured" and I needed to draw out scripture.

 

Please forgive me for how this has went and let me know if we've gotten to far off track.  I think we've been trying to show draw out from YoYo "Why so hard on homosexuals, but not other "sins"."  Do you see that or have should we totally drop it?  I'll understand if you say "yes".

 

Hey SNow, this is exactly how most discussions re homosex turn: inconsistencies of biblical passages, picking and choosing scripture (no homos, but no shrimp either), changing the subject by True Believers to their own problems and exhorting us apostates to turn back to god, christians' ignorance regarding the issues of free will and calvinism. The entire issue brings up the glaring (to me at least) inconsistencies in the bible and christianity in particular.

 

When I was a True Believer, I prayed for this, my family prayed (and still prays) for my "changing," and NOTHING happened. It wasn't for lack of effort on our part.

 

The bible makes promises, we stuck to them, and "god" (whatever that is) didn't step up to the plate. The reason of course, is because none of this is true. It's just a religious fantasy.

[Vigile]

Oh Vigile, what a wonderful post.  See what happens when you live in a beautiful place like St. Petersburg?  Witty and bitchy repartee simply follows.

 

I'll need a car first to get that rainbow sticker stuck to!  But the bordeux down the terlet?  Well, if Yoyo's prayers are answered according to the will of God, I'll be one fine specimen of hetero man love and buy FreedomFermentation instead.  (Sorry, but I've already got the case of bud; see comment on being butch.)  Belt and shoes...hemmmm, you caught me there.  Haha, The Man Show cracks me up: I'll use it as a barometer if God has changed my heart with all the buxom babes who get the crowd yellin.

 

I think the only criteria I meet on my list is the fact that I don't have a sticker on my car. Bordeux down the toilet would in fact be a major sin in my book. Oil change, uh uh!

[trashy]

Please oh mighty Pink Unicorn, if there is or ever will be such a thing as "curing" homosexuality, please keep it away from the lesbians. My world would be much darker without them in it. Amen and whinny.

ROTFLOL

[Purple Rhino]

Come on now Curt, you know god helps those who help themselves.  You gotta give him a little help.  Peel that rainbow sticker off your car.  Pour that evil Bordeux down the sewer (it's a patriotic act you know?) and run down and buy yourself a case of Budweiser.  Stop checking to see if your shoes match your belt and just stay untucked instead.  Just for kicks, try changing your own oil next time your car is in need.  And for god's sake, watch The Man Show. 

 

{just kidding Curt}

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Oh No I'm not gay!

 

No rainbow stickers

No Bordeux

Shoes never match belt

Never tuck shirt or appendages

Can change oil and distributor caps in a car

Love the man show

 

I wish someone had told me earlier

 

PR

[trashy]

What does a Christian heterosexual man do when he is consumed with pornography and intense sexual fantasies? Or How does this same man handle a continuing thought process of someone other than his wife?

Me, I repented of it and struggled with it and felt guilty about it and kept doing it any way. This eventually caused me to end up in such seedy places and situations as those XXX Adult stores w/ the glory holes [insert comment from PR here] The marriage lasted 7 years but didn't break up due to the porn (although it may have been a small contributing factor from my wife's perspective). We had other, bigger issues.

 

My current wife and I have been married 15 years and now that we're unbelievers we can actually talk about stuff like this. Porn, strip clubs, sexual fantasies, etc. are things that guys "just do" and it is not frowned upon. Our sex life is better than ever. Go figure.

[trashy]

Oh No I'm not gay!

 

No rainbow stickers

No Bordeux

Shoes never match belt

Never tuck shirt or appendages

Can change oil and distributor caps in a car

Love the man show

 

I wish someone had told me earlier

 

PR

You've been healed! Damn.

 

Now I'm gonna have ta re-convert. Thanks a lot PR......

[Purple Rhino]

... [insert comment from PR here] ...

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Hey! I wouldn't have said much!

 

There are just somethings that even the PR can't pass by

So speaking of insertingggg...

 

Actually trashy I'm happy for you that your current marriage is on a healthy sexual footing. It makes the whole experience so fulfilling.

 

Back to topic.

 

Curt you craving sugar walls yet? Remember when they say Jesus in me they don't mean your colon

 

PR

[Curtdude]

Its not about me my friend, but entirely about you.  I appreciate your sincerity.

I thank God everyday that I have the love for my wife that I have. I rest in that the Lord created man and woman, and designed us this way. I rest in my wife for my fleshly desires.  I'm happy for your conjugal happiness; however, from your previous post you are frustrated with lust and porno.  Don't expect your god to deliver you, IMO.

 

Prov 5:19

19 Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love.  Aw, biblical porn with a boob fetish.  Naughty naughty now.

(KJV)

There is a way and path set in front of any person, whether they are heterosexual or homosexual. If you are born with this type of condition and you cant help that you can only have sexual relations with a man, and women repulse you, then I would either assume that God would take that out of you, by a wanting of it out for God, or would pardon the condition.  So, what's your point?  I already tried all of that when I was a True Believer.

 

I, nor anyone else knows the hearts and thoughts of another. There is one who does though, and if you have battled and told God that you want to rid yourself these thoughts and lifestyle, then he hears you.  The answer sounded like "No" to me.  God did not fulfill his promise:  I asked to "be perfect as our Heavenly Father is perfect" and your god did nothing.

 

Like I said, many people, of whom claim Jesus as there Lord, battle with what they see as right or wrong everyday. Just like you are, or not.  Again, yes we're all the same.  Thanks for the reminder, or was it you reminding yourself?

 

If God isnt involved at all then you are simply badgering Christians that have influenced you in some way throughout this process.  You just admitted that it's possible that God isn't involved at all: this is blasphemy.  Your god has purported in his holy book that not a sparrow falls without his knowledge and involvement.  And you took the bait of my dare, prayed and now it's really all about me persecuting True Believers?  Please, dude. It's about the lameness of what you believe in.  You've done your duty and prayed to your god for me, and given yourself excuses for your god not answering ACCORDING TO HIS STATED WILL IN THE BIBLE.

 

All in all, dont blame me, or expect me to heal you, when I ask every day for God to heal things in my life that I want out. I want them out to serve and worship in full, not to go to church and tell a bunch of people that I can join there block party now that I have been cleansed. Worship, not image.  I have never placed any blame on True Believers for not "curing" me: I've pointed out that the prayers are BS because the religion is not true.

 

Yoyo, thanks for your thoughts and taking the time to address this. I'm gonna pass on the other issues brought up in this thread, though. I think the other exers have it totally covered.

[Curtdude]

Oh No I'm not gay!

 

No rainbow stickers

No Bordeux

Shoes never match belt

Never tuck shirt or appendages

Can change oil and distributor caps in a car

Love the man show

 

I wish someone had told me earlier

 

PR

 

I guess we won't be seeing you on Queer Eye...

[dario]

I also prayed for you, curtdude, and for Hans son also.

[Ouroboros]

I also prayed for you, curtdude, and for Hans son also.

Thanks. I let you know if something happens.

[Purple Rhino]

I guess we won't be seeing you on Queer Eye...

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Don't get me started on that damn show!

 

PR

[Curtdude]

I also prayed for you, curtdude, and for Hans son also.

 

Thank you, Dario. I just read a smattering of your most recent posts.

 

You sound like many of my old friends in the church: honestly inquisitive and thoughtful.

 

I appreciate your kind thoughts and sincerity. You may want to pray for my partner too that he could handle a switch hitter.

[Curtdude]

Oh, Brother. Yeah, a "prophecy" is now something that people have been doing since we've inhabited the earth.  Get some help YoYo.

 

I prophecy an unbearably hot summer in the months of June, July, and August in the Southern half of the United states.  I prophecy that it will snow in Michigan this December.  I prophecy that sometime this week Curtdude, IBF and TFT and PR will have homosexual intercourse with their perspective partners.

 

Hey SNow, you're showing a latent fruit of the spirit (prophecy). I have a feeling it'll come true, since for the last eight years my pard has been keeping me quite busy every day.

[Vigile]

Oh No I'm not gay!

 

No rainbow stickers

No Bordeux

Shoes never match belt

Never tuck shirt or appendages

Can change oil and distributor caps in a car

Love the man show

 

I wish someone had told me earlier

 

PR

 

You fit the gay stereotypes at least as well as I fit the straight man stereotypes.

[trashy]

Don't get me started on that damn show! 

 

PR

But PR - I've always picture Carson when I think of you! And how can you not like the QE intro? It rocks!

 

C'mon, you know you have QE fantasies.....

[Purple Rhino]

Thanks Curt!  Haha, I was going to put "tonight" but I had a vibe that IBF and PR weren't as fortunate, they might get it like 3-4 times in two weeks vs. daily.  (KIDDING!!) 

 

Oh and have a great night...LOL

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4 times in two weeks! Maybe years ago LOL I don't even look at porn 4 times in 2 weeks!

 

I had too much sex from an early age so I'm trying to catch up on much needed sleep that I missed.

 

Sheesh 4 times ...

 

PR

[Purple Rhino]

But PR - I've always picture Carson when I think of you!  And how can you not like the QE intro?  It rocks! 

 

C'mon, you know you have QE fantasies.....

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Now trashy we've been down this road

As long as you don't picture Carson on top of me I guess that's OK

 

I do have fantasies about Kyan that involve heavy bondage and a truck load of towels Believe me even YOU don't want to know

 

PR

[Curtdude]

STATUS REPORT:

No change. Got kissed at the end of lunch by known male. No nausea reaction. Startled looks from Japanese tourists. Unsolicited impure thoughts after kissing venture. Oh darn, does it count if the thoughts weren't about the man who kissed me?

 

Still no woman involved. Not even for a three-way. Got cruised by several though on the way back to office, but this is San Francisco, where straight women are a bit more agressive with the eye contact than in the rest of america (smaller group of eligible bachelors).

 

Oh well.