Prussian Blue

[♦ nivek ♦]

Let us agree to disagree on some of the the details.

 

Let topic cool off folks, nothing gained by chewing on each other over subjects in which we have little to no control of.

 

Don't care to have a case of redassed pissed at each other over the racist bents on either end of the color spectrum.

 

In the morning, we all gotta get up, take a whizz, pull on our britches and look in mirror.

I happen to not dislike what I see most mornings, "just 'cause" it will all pan out anyway..

 

Won't lock topic, not necessary, just be damnned careful in making further responses to things that are inflammatory.

 

Peace through superior firepower.

 

kL

[a midnight star]

Pride: being proud of YOUR accomplishments, or that of your offspring, maybe even spouse

 

False Pride: being proud of anyone or anything else that is not of your doing or control, i.e. your race, your height, your sex, your parents, grandparents, ancestors, others of your chosen or born religion, country, state, county, college, high school, except for any team you were the star of

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Tell that to all the gays who celebrate "gay pride". Gays are born gay, so according to your words, they would not have the right to be proud or have "gay pride".

[a midnight star]

Mommy, the "racist troll" has belonged to this site since '03"!

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I am trying to figure out how you are called a racist when you simply stated that racism is on all sides. Black and white. The idea that only whites can be racist is a racist statement in and of itself. There is a word for it, it is called reverse discrimination.

 

 

And question:

 

If rapper songs stating that all whites must be killed isn't promoting race killing then I suppose she will now say that christian songs are not promoting christianity.

 

same same

[Guest MalaInSe]

Hey, um, how about a direction for all that angst?

 

They have a website:

 

Prussian Blue

 

Said website has a forum, including a debate topic.

 

I'm not talking about spamming them or flooding them, but perhaps a discussion there would be fun. They are moderated. I wonder how open they are to criticism. I would be interested in seeing some intelligent debate in their debate forum. It appears that many of their tactics are similar to some of the other boards.

 

Renee

 

PS: I love how accusations of PC only cut one way. Agree that lyrics promote degradation of women and then use a gender specific insult. Sweet! I'm not interested in taking sides here in the actual argument, but someone's hypocrisy is showing. I don't think I've ever seen the accusation that someone is PC ever mean anything but "it's only acceptable if I say it is." I wish people would give up on that one and actually make an argument.

[MQTA]

Tell that to all the gays who celebrate "gay pride". Gays are born gay, so according to your words, they would not have the right to be proud or have "gay pride".

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You can claim pride to anything you want, it just may be a False pride, a pride not of your own accomplishment.

 

Definition, semantics, fact, whatever you want to call it. Can make it mean what ever you want, but reality is reality.

 

Should hets go around being Proud that they're hets? Is being gay or straight Something, in reality, should make one proud? If it does, then go brandish it, I don't care. Whatever makes people feel better about themselves, they'll do.

 

Masturbation and ego stroking are still just that.

[Thurisaz]

Pride: being proud of YOUR accomplishments, or that of your offspring, maybe even spouse

 

False Pride: being proud of anyone or anything else that is not of your doing or control, i.e. your race, your height, your sex, your parents, grandparents, ancestors, others of your chosen or born religion, country, state, county, college, high school, except for any team you were the star of

 

German version of this one (or at least something very closely related - translated by me):

 

"patriotism = loving your own

 

nationalism = hating all others"

 

[a midnight star]

You can claim pride to anything you want, it just may be a False pride, a pride not of your own accomplishment. 

 

Definition, semantics, fact, whatever you want to call it.  Can make it mean what ever you want, but reality is reality.

 

Should hets go around being Proud that they're hets?  Is being gay or straight Something, in reality, should make one proud?  If it does, then go brandish it, I don't care.  Whatever makes people feel better about themselves, they'll do.

 

Masturbation and ego stroking are still just that.

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My point is simply that I can and will teach my son to be proud of our culture and our heritage. That does not in anyway discredit or harm other races. Everyone should be proud of their heritage, but to use that as an excuse to harm other races or to discredit other races is unexcusable.

[a midnight star]

German version of this one (or at least something very closely related - translated by me):

 

"patriotism = loving your own

 

nationalism = hating all others"

 

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Agreed!!

[MQTA]

My point is simply that I can and will teach my son to be proud of our culture and our heritage. That does not in anyway discredit or harm other races. Everyone should be proud of their heritage, but to use that as an excuse to harm other races or to discredit other races is unexcusable.

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Great. I'll teach my son to be proud of himself for his accomplishments, even if they are just avoiding silly arguments. He's exposed to our family's histories but they're not glorified or inflated.

 

It's all a matter of semantics.

 

And I guess some people are just anti-semantic

[Guest aexapo]

I agree.  I hope no one here thinks I am minimizing the experienc of black people in this county.  I am not.

That's why I asked "which white people".  Should all white people be demonized by blacks because of things in history?  Sounds like a secular version of original sin.  Yes, white racism in the past has led to atrocities, shameful.  My concern is that the racism we see amongs *some* in the black community will lead to violence against whites.  It happens and its underreported. 

I don't equal atrocities as far as numbers go.  But let one white person you care about get attacked or killed by a black person and I don't think your rationalizations hold for you anymore. 

So its okay to have rap lyrics that speak of killing whites?  That's okay with you?  How about Koreans?

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First, the white persecution of blacks didn't end with Lincoln's proclamations, and neither did modern acts of prejudice and exclusion with LBJ. It's a nasty beast that continually raises its ugly head in the hiring office, in certain department stores and restaurants, and in neighborhoods around the country. Although I'm white, my partner is black -- and although I can't see everything as he does, I sure as hell see things outside of my "whitee" box more clearly.

 

Things seem to be improving with time, but it still isn't the same -- and in regards to crime and blacks, all to often, when a crime is committed, it often seems that "any black man" will do when it comes to sweeping a neighborhood. There is a great mistrust among poor african-americans in regards to law enforcement, and often, it is justified. It often seems to happen with such regularity, that when we do hear stories of the wrong black man getting freed from prison, or a middle-class professional black getting beat up by cops (or killed) that it's just considered collateral damage . . . no news here, keep moving along.

 

This collateral damage could be the worst thing that our majoritarian society could be doing to the black community -- it's basically the same thing that is happening in Palestine; except we're the jews this time. Lone suicide bomber? Reaction: bomb a village. Street gang on the loose? Arrest every black man in sight.

 

Personal responsibility? Yes, sadly, the actions of the government that we empower every election period is our responsibility. If you're referring to slave reparations (which we haven't discussed), yes, any debt incurred by the United States government -- whether it be one incurred in October of 2005, or in December of 1793, is active, valid, and legal, until it is paid in full. If this isn't the case, I would like to plead "not guilty" of all public debts still owed prior to 1988, which was when I was legally able to vote. I want my tax burden debited so that I'm not paying interest on that portion of the national debt.

 

This isn't a nation of independent satellites -- we affect our society, and our society affects us. While I may or may not be directly responsible for any action of society or government, as a member of that same society, I'm certainly responsible for the clean-up, and the solution -- just as I am entitled to any rewards endowed.

 

(edited when my dog jumped on my lap, causing me to accidently hit "submit")

[Dhampir]

Okay, first off, black racial lyrics will never incite more than the barest minimum of black on white violence, except in self-defense against whites who end up taking violent offense to them.

 

It doesn't work backwards.

 

Why? Because. Because when actual rallying cry white racists make songs they are actually trying to incite violence. Blacks have, since the end of slavery had only their words as weapons.

 

When whites make their albums, they get to work with white execs, white producers, white promoters, etc.

 

When blacks make their albums, they get to work with white execs, white producers, white promoters, etc.

 

As I said, not only do whites tend to accept this rhetoric from blacks, they often embrace it. The prime demographic is upper-middle class white girls. And the money would be in danger if they started in with anything other than intra-racial violence.

[Dhampir]

All white people are NOT, do you hear me you fucking PC TARDS..........not guilty of the things of the past.

damn man...

one feels the need to reiterate

I at least never refer to those descended from slavers or what have you.  I am talking about the current day oppressors.

And when have I ever been PC talking about race?

[All Gods Fail]

Hey, um, how about a direction for all that angst?

 

They have a website:

 

Prussian Blue

 

Said website has a forum, including a debate topic.

 

I'm not talking about spamming them or flooding them, but perhaps a discussion there would be fun.  They are moderated.  I wonder how open they are to criticism.  I would be interested in seeing some intelligent debate in their debate forum.  It appears that many of their tactics are similar to some of the other boards.

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I'm on it. Gotta see what kind of ridiculous crap is posted there. I'll report back if it's interesting.

 

BTW, I would suggest this thread is kind of pointless now. Can't we all just hate Nazis and get along?

[All Gods Fail]

Quick follow-up - their website/forum was pretty typical. Garden-variety stupidity. I didn't even feel like arguing with anyone, cause what would be the point? These people are wrong, they know they're wrong, and they pursue it anyway just to get some kind of attention they failed to get from their parents. A total waste of time, IMO.

[Valgeir]

Yeah, I checked it out too, it's just braindead fucks stroking their egos by declaring themselves "superior". Let's stick to arguing with the Christians, at least they're amusing.

[Luck Mermaid]

'political correctness' according to my friend Greta was started by white bigot earth rapist Bush Sr (or was it Reagan, can't remember) . If you look up the term on the net I'm sure you'll find more info.

[RankStranger]

They're from Bakersfield, the shithole of Cali, eh?  I guess this doesn't really suprise me.  I don't think people realize how racist some parts of California are, somehow people have this idea Cali is all liberal and multicultural.  For the most part, the further inland you get from the coast, the more white and the more racist it is.  Well and probably no coincidence, the more poor and uneducated the people are....

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Oh, so now we're dissing poor and uneducated people, eh? WELL BITE ME!

 

"Prussian Blue"... isn't that a vodka?

[RankStranger]

Wow, is this thread getting OT! Originally it was about the disgusting Nazi girl singers and their perverse beliefs.

 

My dad risked his life trying to stop the Nazis in WWII, and to see these contemporary human vermin jack off to swastikas makes me physically ill.

 

I'd love to see some of those Hitler-kissers hanging from a lamp post in the town square. Anti-white rappers at least have some justification for their hatred: these wanna-be Stormtroopers have no excuse.

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I've known a few of these folks, and they THRIVE on a martyr conplex. A hanging-from-a-lamp-post rant is exactly what they're looking for.

 

Their songs are on Kazaa- I downloaded a few and listened... it's pretty much what you'd expect. These girls are YOUNG- I kinda feel sorry for them.

 

I was in the kitchen rolling out crusts for some apple dumplings, and I remembered what Prussian Blue is. It's gear-marking compound. I've got some in my toolbox at work, and use it now and then to set up ring and pinion gears. It's kinda like blue grease- comes in a tube...

[LadyFeline]

I was in the kitchen rolling out crusts for some apple dumplings, and I remembered what Prussian Blue is.  It's gear-marking compound.  I've got some in my toolbox at work, and use it now and then to set up ring and pinion gears.  It's kinda like blue grease- comes in a tube...

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It's also a highly-toxic paint tint.

 

Heh. Toxic. Go figure...

[All Gods Fail]

I've known a few of these folks, and they THRIVE on a martyr conplex.  A hanging-from-a-lamp-post rant is exactly what they're looking for.

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That's true. But I hate Nazis, like all good folk do.

 

In truth, I think they are 'meatspace' trolls. Who knows if they even believe their own retarded philosophy? Their big thrill in life is pissing people off. If being Nazi didn't do it, they'd switch to Satanism, or pedophilia, or whatever would guarantee the greatest response.

[RankStranger]

That's true. But I hate Nazis, like all good folk do.

 

In truth, I think they are 'meatspace' trolls. Who knows if they even believe their own retarded philosophy? Their big thrill in life is pissing people off. If being Nazi didn't do it, they'd switch to Satanism, or pedophilia, or whatever would guarantee the greatest response.

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Well, I'm not good folk- I don't hate nazis. I just think they're a particulatly vile strain of dumbass.

 

"meatspace trolls"- that's a good one...

 

From what I've seen, they may or may not really 'believe' it- they're looking for an ideology that's at once shocking and isolating. They get to rationalize their own isolated and marginalized life, with an arbitrary reason to feel superior. It isn't about aaryans vs. everybody else- it's about 'us vs. them'.

 

I worked with two Klansmen for several years- one day the boss hired a new guy. I could tell by his last name that he was of Jewish descent, though he'd gone christian at some point in his life. Well, one of the Klansmen couldn't read, and the other one was only a little smarter- they wouldn't recognize a jewish name that didn't have 'berg' in it, and they didn't know a jewish lookin' feller if he was standing right in front of them (and one was). So they both seemed to decide that he was an ok feller for a yankee. To this day I doubt they realize he's sortof a jew.

 

One feller that I was friends with back when I was young and dumb was a wanna-be white supremecist... he didn't frequent any sort of group, but that was only because we were at school halfway across the country. Anyways, he hated Jews and all like a good ole' white boy should, and he'd mention it now and then. One day we were watching teevee and drinking cheap beer, and as he flips the channels, he stops to watch "The Nanny". I bitched about this 'cause I wanted to watch something else, and he replied "that's Fran Dresscher (sp?)- she's hot!". I said, "um- you know she's Jewish, right?" He just replied- "no she's not!" I just shook my head and let it go...

 

For the most part, these people are so dumb that they don't even know who they're supposed to hate- let alone WHY. And people rarely go out an join the Aaryan Nation just for something to do on weekends... they join for protection when they go to prison- so you know they're a bunch of real winners.

[a midnight star]

'political correctness' according to my friend Greta was started by white bigot earth rapist Bush Sr (or was it Reagan, can't remember) . If you look up the term on the net I'm sure you'll find more info.

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Actually it started long before either was ever president. Examples of such are:

 

Mailman turned into mailperson

 

This comes straight out of the 60's and the hippy or liberal movement. It did not start by the right nor is it a "republican" thingy.

 

Critics of political language choice argue that it amounts to censorship and is a danger to free speech. Some argue that limits placed on language and the boundaries of public debate will inevitably lead to limits on conduct. Some conservatives would also view many "politically correct" terms as linguistic cover for an evasion of personal responsibility, for instance when "juvenile delinquents" become "children at risk".

 

Some on the political left reject the conservative definition of the term when applied as a blanket political epithet to all liberals and leftists, but do hold that there is indeed a political correctness which has become a problem on the left. They argue that the emphasis on the left has shifted in recent years away from traditional left concerns of social class, socialism, labor unions, ecology, ending discrimination, and related issues, and has instead turned toward such things as postmodernism, post-structuralism, multiculturalism, academic theories of structural or institutionalised oppression such as white privilege and heterosexism, all of which are seen as either antithetical to the traditional left emphasis on the working class, divisive, exclusionary toward the white working class, or incomprehensible to most of the general public outside of academia

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politically_correct

[All Gods Fail]

That's true. But I hate Nazis, like all good folk do.

 

In truth, I think they are 'meatspace' trolls. Who knows if they even believe their own retarded philosophy? Their big thrill in life is pissing people off. If being Nazi didn't do it, they'd switch to Satanism, or pedophilia, or whatever would guarantee the greatest response.

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Well, I'm not good folk- I don't hate nazis. I just think they're a particulatly vile strain of dumbass.

 

"meatspace trolls"- that's a good one...

 

From what I've seen, they may or may not really 'believe' it- they're looking for an ideology that's at once shocking and isolating. They get to rationalize their own isolated and marginalized life, with an arbitrary reason to feel superior. It isn't about aaryans vs. everybody else- it's about 'us vs. them'.

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Yeah, I think you're right on, unchainedhillbilly. It's almost like a borderline personality - they need to find an identity that they can't seem to come up with on their own.

 

It's not much different than religious zealots, in that their beliefs aren't so much what they think is right, but what they can condemn as wrong. Kind of a indignation rush - they get off on 'righteousness' because it makes them feel so good about themselves.

[Checkmate]

This picture has no caption, so I can't be CERTAIN that this is them, but if I were a gambling man, I'd say that this is a photo of "Prussian Blue".

 

Ain't they sweet?

[Rachelness]

Yes, that's them. Adorable.