Guest afireinside Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Where are we getting the oil and the ivory from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest afireinside Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Apparently the only man-made things in Heaven are the nail holes in Jesus' hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironhorse Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Where are we getting the oil and the ivory from? I'm attempting to make a point here. ...if you will kindly play along Which one would you choose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest afireinside Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Oh sorry Dynamo. Ok I'll go with the piano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest afireinside Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Ahhh c'mon don't leave me hanging, I wanna see where this goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator TrueFreedom Posted April 14, 2014 Moderator Share Posted April 14, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator TrueFreedom Posted April 14, 2014 Moderator Share Posted April 14, 2014 "And the grave-digger puts on the forcepsThe stone mason does all the workThe barber can give you a haircutThe carpenter can take you out to lunchI just want to play on my pan-pipesI just want to drink me some wineAs soon as you're born you start dyingSo you might as well have a good time." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironhorse Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Ahhh c'mon don't leave me hanging, I wanna see where this goes Sorry..had to leave a few minutes. Ok, the piano it is. Since Heaven is paradise...will you be able to play a piano like a master? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest afireinside Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I guess we are all pre programmed so I assume yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator TrueFreedom Posted April 14, 2014 Moderator Share Posted April 14, 2014 Ahhh c'mon don't leave me hanging, I wanna see where this goes Sorry..had to leave a few minutes. Ok, the piano it is. Since Heaven is paradise...will you be able to play a piano like a master? Chapter and verse, please, or whatever your source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 If everyone can crank out master level piano music with no effort then playing the piano would be as much fun and just as rewarding as hitting play on a CD player. What makes something special it that it is rare or scarce. Having unlimited resources and unlimited time means nothing will be special. This is ultimately why the Christian threat of hell is also meaningless. After a few years you can get use to anything. Heaven and Hell fail as concepts because without change the effects would fade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironhorse Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I guess we are all pre programmed so I assume yes Most people will answer yes. Imagine a Heaven where playing the piano or painting a master piece or anything was programmed into us. No effort, no studying, no learning, no practicing, no failures, no mistakes, no set backs, no tiredness, no frustrations, no pain. Would you think that would be exciting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest afireinside Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Yes Heaven is mundane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator TrueFreedom Posted April 14, 2014 Moderator Share Posted April 14, 2014 If everyone can do it, what makes it special or the least bit interesting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I guess we are all pre programmed so I assume yes Most people will answer yes. Imagine a Heaven where playing the piano or painting a master piece or anything was programmed into us. No effort, no studying, no learning, no practicing, no failures, no mistakes, no set backs, no tiredness, no frustrations, no pain. Would you think that would be exciting? Then this must be heaven because we all have iPads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest afireinside Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 What's the crux of what you are saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overcame Faith Posted April 14, 2014 Author Share Posted April 14, 2014 I suppose the man who murdered a master pianist who happened to be a Muslim and which murderer confessed belief in Jesus just before being executed will also be able tp play beautiful music in heaven while the murdered Muslim writhes in pain in hell for eternity never to play the piano or hear any soothing music ever again. Yeah, that sounds just to me!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironhorse Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 What's the crux of what you are saying? A Heaven where everything was easy and done for you would not only be very dull but a very cruel hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest afireinside Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Soooooo......we get to choose what to do and when to do it? Sounds risky to me. Wonder how long until some idiot eats an apple? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest afireinside Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 The Bible that I read talked about copious amounts of ass-kissing day and night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironhorse Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Soooooo......we get to choose what to do and when to do it? Sounds risky to me. Wonder how long until some idiot eats an apple? God took the risk when he created humans with free will. In Heaven we will still have free will but without the presence of sin. Apple eating Heaven will be allowed. Apples and a lot of great food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francesco Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 All knowing god who knows all possible outcomes was taking risk? He is not that all knowing eh? I guess we are all pre programmed so I assume yes Most people will answer yes. Imagine a Heaven where playing the piano or painting a master piece or anything was programmed into us. No effort, no studying, no learning, no practicing, no failures, no mistakes, no set backs, no tiredness, no frustrations, no pain. Would you think that would be exciting? Also i found it's stupidIf your version of heaven is where every profession or hobby or passion can be mastered and practiced freely then I ask you What is heaven for plumber? Do the house in heaven have some leaked pipe and clogged toilet? How about car mechanic?do our cars in heaven broke down in the middle of the heaven highway 1? What is heaven for doctors and nurses who have a genuine passion to help people?what kind of job does heaven offers for them if nobody's get sick or need to be treated? How about army, there is no war in heaven right? How about police?since everybody are in peace then they are not needed right? What about fire fighter? No House fire in heaven right? How about pastor and priest? Since god himself is there he does not need anybody else to preach right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest afireinside Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Duuude! That's not scriptural. If God allowed us the potential to fall and sin the first time he MUST allow that again or take away all power of choice and individuality What do you think about when you're in Heaven and there's billions of people in pain in hell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roz Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Chapter and verse, please, or whatever your source. Maybe he received his Heaven revelation from a vision from god. Like Joseph Smith did, like Ellen White did, and like the author of the Book of Revelation did. Don't ask why they all say different things though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest afireinside Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Ironhorse you are saying we have personalities in Heaven. Satan had his own personality and sinned in Heaven so there must be some kind of free will to sin and defy God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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