Mystique Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 You people do not know much spiritually because if you did you would not be ex-Christians. We know just as much as you do, spiritually. Unlike you however, we are willing to admit it's all bullshit. [Clarification.] You are truly blind and do not know the truth at all. Then give us the truth! Photos of camera errors and Bible verses isnt doing the trick! I have seen the truth with my own naked eyes. I know the truth. I have given you the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DivineBlasphemer Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Precisely. We dont pretend to know the answers science hasn't answered yet Science has taken us only as far as the moon in a tiny space shuttle. The physical sciences are not going to figure out the origin of the universe, mankind, and the afterlife. The space shuttle never left Low Earth orbit (no more than 1,200 miles up) and the Moon is on average 245,000 miles away. You people do not know much spiritually because if you did you would not be ex-Christians. We know just as much as you do, spiritually. Unlike you however, we are willing to admit it's all bullshit. [Clarification.] You are truly blind and do not know the truth at all. Then convince us of the truth with objective evidence of it. Photographs of the Holy Spirit and some of His works are objective. If you need more to help save your own rear end, I would suggest that you get to looking. Objective evidence of the Holy Spirit must come from an a source that is independent of you. That is, not from the member of this forum called Mystique. Cite or link to an independent source to back up your claim, which we can verify for ourselves. Your claims of objectivity cannot be accepted because you (Mystique) are the one making them. Only information independent of Mystique is acceptable as objective evidence. Anything Mystique posts and claims to be objective cannot be accepted as objective. This standard is not negotiable by Mystique. Here is one. http://parksmccants.hubpages.com/hub/Orb-of-the-Holy-Spirit-captured-in-photos Again with the bubbles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DivineBlasphemer Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 You people do not know much spiritually because if you did you would not be ex-Christians.We know just as much as you do, spiritually. Unlike you however, we are willing to admit it's all bullshit. [Clarification.] You are truly blind and do not know the truth at all.Then give us the truth! Photos of camera errors and Bible verses isnt doing the trick! I have seen the truth with my own naked eyes. I know the truth. I have given you the truth. How are we supposed to believe you? It keeps circling back to this question. U know the truth, that's great, but we have no reasons or evidence to believe you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DivineBlasphemer Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Do you know that fairies are not real? Of course not. Then how do you know that the video is not of real fairies? BECAUSE THERE AIN'T NO SUCH THING AS FAIRIES! So far that's two things I know aren't for real. Fairies and YOU, Mystaque. Did you see the eye in my fourth thread? That is the eye of the Spirit of truth who bears witness to all the evils of this world. It is through this eye that judgment comes upon the unbelieving sinner.Yes, and it was shut down because you made the same argument about bubbles I discussed the living works of the Spirit of truth which I had not previously done. You explained it with orbs, orbs and more fuckin orbs. Not to mention the bible verses you cling to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I have seen the truth with my own naked eyes. I know the truth. I have given you the truth. Camera tricks and photoshop are not spirits. Try to not be a moron. Anybody can use photoshop. It's not even hard to do. https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-best-and-worst-use-of-Photoshop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornagainathiest Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Precisely. We dont pretend to know the answers science hasn't answered yet Science has taken us only as far as the moon in a tiny space shuttle. The physical sciences are not going to figure out the origin of the universe, mankind, and the afterlife. The space shuttle never left Low Earth orbit (no more than 1,200 miles up) and the Moon is on average 245,000 miles away. You people do not know much spiritually because if you did you would not be ex-Christians. We know just as much as you do, spiritually. Unlike you however, we are willing to admit it's all bullshit. [Clarification.] You are truly blind and do not know the truth at all. Then convince us of the truth with objective evidence of it. Photographs of the Holy Spirit and some of His works are objective. If you need more to help save your own rear end, I would suggest that you get to looking. Objective evidence of the Holy Spirit must come from an a source that is independent of you. That is, not from the member of this forum called Mystique. Cite or link to an independent source to back up your claim, which we can verify for ourselves. Your claims of objectivity cannot be accepted because you (Mystique) are the one making them. Only information independent of Mystique is acceptable as objective evidence. Anything Mystique posts and claims to be objective cannot be accepted as objective. This standard is not negotiable by Mystique. Here is one. http://parksmccants.hubpages.com/hub/Orb-of-the-Holy-Spirit-captured-in-photos Thank you. Now please tell us why you had to be pressed by me (repeated requests) to produce evidence from an independent source like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Check it out. The holy Trinity appeared to me and I took their picture. From left to right that is God the Father, the Holy Spirit and God the Son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystique Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 The OP is the only person here who has seen the Holy Spirit and can truly identify Him.Why is that? Many people on this website spent years and years wanting to be good Christians and to have an intimate relationship with God. Many of us experienced "gifts". I've spoken in tongues, been slain in the spirit, felt energy flowing through my body during group prayer, and I could lay my hands on people to relieve their pain - and I'm not even close to being the only one in any of those. Many of us honestly thought we were, in fact, in contact with the Holy Spirit, or spent countless moments praying for it. What exactly makes you so different from us that you can say you are the only one here who "can truly identify the Holy Spirit"? (edit: No need for all those quotes.) Correct me if I am wrong. I am the only one here who has recognized Him with their own two eyes. I happy to hear of your experiences. You should not give up your faith.False. I am sure that over almost 10 years, this site heard the testimonies of those who have "seen" the Holy Spirit. U aren't special Are they here? Although you are right in saying that I am not special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DivineBlasphemer Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 The OP is the only person here who has seen the Holy Spirit and can truly identify Him.Why is that? Many people on this website spent years and years wanting to be good Christians and to have an intimate relationship with God. Many of us experienced "gifts". I've spoken in tongues, been slain in the spirit, felt energy flowing through my body during group prayer, and I could lay my hands on people to relieve their pain - and I'm not even close to being the only one in any of those. Many of us honestly thought we were, in fact, in contact with the Holy Spirit, or spent countless moments praying for it. What exactly makes you so different from us that you can say you are the only one here who "can truly identify the Holy Spirit"? (edit: No need for all those quotes.) Correct me if I am wrong. I am the only one here who has recognized Him with their own two eyes. I happy to hear of your experiences. You should not give up your faith.False. I am sure that over almost 10 years, this site heard the testimonies of those who have "seen" the Holy Spirit. U aren't special Are they here? Although you are right in saying that I am not special. I am one of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystique Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 Check it out. The holy Trinity appeared to me and I took their picture. From left to right that is God the Father, the Holy Spirit and God the Son. Google spirit orbs, angel orbs, and ghost orbs and you will see just how highly the Holy Spirit is misunderstood in the world today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DivineBlasphemer Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Check it out. The holy Trinity appeared to me and I took their picture. From left to right that is God the Father, the Holy Spirit and God the Son. Google spirit orbs, angel orbs, and ghost orbs and you will see just how highly the Holy Spirit is misunderstood in the world today. OOOOOOHHHHHH so when we do it, it's misunderstood, but when you do it, it's "research". I get it now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 OOOOOOHHHHHH so when we do it, it's misunderstood, but when you do it, it's "research". I get it now Well of course. Our eyes are blind to spiritual maters but he has the secret knowledge and the Holy Spirit dwelling in his heart. It says so in the buy bull! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystique Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 It is believed by some Christians that aliens are some of the fallen angels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOutsider Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 OOOOOOHHHHHH so when we do it, it's misunderstood, but when you do it, it's "research". I get it now Well of course. Our eyes are blind to spiritual maters but he has the secret knowledge and the Holy Spirit dwelling in his heart. It says so in the buy bull! And Jizzus stood on the wing of a plain when he was a kid, so, like, he's a legit prophet, yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOutsider Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 It is believed by some Christians that aliens are some of the fallen angels. No, no. They are eldrich abominations, and they have already gotten to you. It's okay, they won't kill you until there is nothing left of your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystique Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 If he loves me, why doesnt he manifest for me? You are a grown boy. Do you need your ass wiped as well? Darn, you got me good. He manifested in front of your delusional ass. Why doesnt he manifest for us and end this debate Back in the days of old, testimonies would suffice. Today, not only am I here giving testimony, but I have also included photographs of the Holy Spirit. And photographs and a video of chariots of God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DivineBlasphemer Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 It is believed by some Christians that aliens are some of the fallen angels. They also think stars are fallen angels too. There is a woman who believes there isnt a moon in the sky. She was recorded during a skype call and she refused to go to walmart and buy a telescope to see for herself. If you want the video, i will try to find it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DivineBlasphemer Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 If he loves me, why doesnt he manifest for me?You are a grown boy. Do you need your ass wiped as well? Darn, you got me good. He manifested in front of your delusional ass. Why doesnt he manifest for us and end this debate Back in the days of old, testimonies would suffice. Today, not only am I here giving testimony, but I have also included photographs of the Holy Spirit. And photographs and a video of chariots of God. I will say this again. You have no clue on this earth that those photos are of the holy spirit. You only think you do. Nobody in this thread can debate those photos because they can be matched up with a million different things, not just the Holy Spirit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I have seen the truth with my own naked eyes. I know the truth. I have given you the truth. You're full of shit. All know it, except you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystique Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 Since this is your experience Mystique, let me correct the title for you to reflect the subjective nature of your message. True Story SUBJECTIVE ACCOUNT (Snip!) Please learn the difference between the subjective and the objective. Thank you, BAA. Except for the dream I had of Jesus removing the anger and hatred from the devils heart. I was completely awake and vigilant during the entire experience and it would not be considered to be, nor was it in any way subjective. Mystique, All of your sensory experiences are subjective unless they can be independently and objectively verified by others. As I said, you need to learn the difference between what is subjective and what is objective. My wife I have have seen both seen the same spirits at the same time. Also, an experience does not have to be independently and objectively verified by others to be objective. It's not implausible for two people to have mental health issues at the same time, and for one to believe the other's delusions are real. It's even possible for entire groups of people to be deluded, it's called mass hysteria. When I was a Christian, I used to volunteer at a drop-in centre for people with mental health issues. They often talked about religious/spiritual ideas, and the ideas were remarkably similar eg "I have seen god/jesus/the holy spirit" or "I am god/jesus/the holy spirit". These are common delusions the world over, wherever Christianity is prevalent. In fact, whatever form religious ideas tend to take in a particular culture, those ideas form the subject material for the delusions of the mentally ill. Mystique, what do those around you, such as friends, family, and health professionals, say about your claims to have seen god/jesus/the holy spirit? My friends and family believe me because they know that I am sober, sane and not a liar. Health professionals distinguish the difference between a spiritual experience and a mental condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystique Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 If he loves me, why doesnt he manifest for me? You are a grown boy. Do you need your ass wiped as well? It is a legitimate question. If God is going to send people to hell for eternity simply for the crime of not realizing he exists, and God know that appearing would make the difference, and God chooses to not appear to most people then God is an evil monster. Appearing to you only proves God is evil. He could appear to everyone but doesn't because he wants to hurt those people forever and ever. That is just sick. This is not true. God loves you. He would not have sent His Son to suffer and die for your sins if He did not love you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystique Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 It is believed by some Christians that aliens are some of the fallen angels. They also think stars are fallen angels too. There is a woman who believes there isnt a moon in the sky. She was recorded during a skype call and she refused to go to walmart and buy a telescope to see for herself. If you want the video, i will try to find it No thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DivineBlasphemer Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 So to prove his love and existence, he stayed silent throughout my entire life? It sure is hard to dodge this hard evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DivineBlasphemer Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 If he loves me, why doesnt he manifest for me? You are a grown boy. Do you need your ass wiped as well? It is a legitimate question. If God is going to send people to hell for eternity simply for the crime of not realizing he exists, and God know that appearing would make the difference, and God chooses to not appear to most people then God is an evil monster. Appearing to you only proves God is evil. He could appear to everyone but doesn't because he wants to hurt those people forever and ever. That is just sick. This is not true. God loves you. He would not have sent His Son to suffer and die for your sins if He did not love you. Technically he sent himself. Why not just forgive sin? It isnt that hard for a God to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystique Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 If he loves me, why doesnt he manifest for me?You are a grown boy. Do you need your ass wiped as well? Darn, you got me good. He manifested in front of your delusional ass. Why doesnt he manifest for us and end this debate Back in the days of old, testimonies would suffice. Today, not only am I here giving testimony, but I have also included photographs of the Holy Spirit. And photographs and a video of chariots of God. I will say this again. You have no clue on this earth that those photos are of the holy spirit. You only think you do. Nobody in this thread can debate those photos because they can be matched up with a million different things, not just the Holy Spirit I have no doubt in my mind that those photographs are of the Holy Spirit. I am 100% certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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