Is scriptural human "spirit", our consciousness and perception of reality?

[Reborn_Kingdom_Image]

1 minute ago, walterpthefirst said:

 

 

This isn't to do with evidence, it's to do with the terms and conditions you set down.

 

You told us that your claim that the infinite fractal requires a designer isn't a religious claim.

 

So, following your instructions, we can't use religious faith to accept your claim.

 

If the answer you wanted was for us to understand your claim by religious faith, then why did you prohibit us from using it?

 

 

 

 

 

i didn't say that. i said the video wasn't religious ...ie the dude didn't' mention GOD in it ...but obviously, i'm telling you GOD is involved with what the video was about. LOGIC

[TheRedneckProfessor]

13 minutes ago, Reborn_Kingdom_Image said:

 

Were you for your first sin? It's the same question.

  It's a simple question.  Why are you scared of answering it?

 

@Reborn_Kingdom_Image, was Eve motivated by Pride?

[Reborn_Kingdom_Image]

1 minute ago, TheRedneckProfessor said:

  It's a simple question.  Why are you scared of answering it?

 

@Reborn_Kingdom_Image, was Eve motivated by Pride?

yes, pride is the core of sin.

children of satan's kingdom are using the polar opposite of GOD'S Plan and they have pride of it. they use the tree of knowledge of good and evil to decide for themselves what should be on the plan.

eating from the blinding tree of knowledge causes self-idolatry. false religion is all about knowing yourself.

sin is against The Law of GOD because you have chosen to use your own plan for life instead of The Way of SALVATION.

If you chose your life plan over the one God has for you, how do you expect to know God when you made your perception about yourself?

a child of satan's kingdom has no idea they have chosen temptation to leave GOD'S Plan of LIFE ...for spiritual death. Get Reborn and see for yourself.

[walterpthefirst]

39 minutes ago, Reborn_Kingdom_Image said:

 

i didn't say that. i said the video wasn't religious ...ie the dude didn't' mention GOD in it ...but obviously, i'm telling you GOD is involved with what the video was about. LOGIC

 

Exactly, RKI.

 

You told us that god was involved by saying that the infinite fractal requires a designer.

 

That is not a logical claim, that is a faith-based claim.

 

Q.

How do you know that it requires a designer?

 

A.

By faith.

 

But, if you are saying that logic be used to discover that the infinite fractal requires a designer, then please explain the process of this logic.

 

 

Thank you.

 

Walter.

[Reborn_Kingdom_Image]

4 minutes ago, walterpthefirst said:

 

Exactly, RKI.

 

You told us that god was involved by saying that the infinite fractal requires a designer.

 

That is not a logical claim, that is a faith-based claim.

 

Q.

How do you know that it requires a designer?

 

A.

By faith.

 

But, if you are saying that logic be used to discover that the infinite fractal requires a designer, then please explain the process of this logic.

 

 

Thank you.

 

Walter.

 

The entire video in the second post is about this.
 

 

[walterpthefirst]

Yes.

 

 

But what about your claim that the infinite fractal requires a designer?

 

How do you know that it requires a designer?

 

If you know this by a process of logic, then please explain this process to us.

 

 

Thank you.

 

walter.

[Reborn_Kingdom_Image]

18 minutes ago, walterpthefirst said:

Yes.

 

 

But what about your claim that the infinite fractal requires a designer?

 

How do you know that it requires a designer?

 

If you know this by a process of logic, then please explain this process to us.

 

 

Thank you.

 

walter.

Start at 34min and watch it for 5min ...or is that asking too much?

We can draw the Mandelbrot fractals by hand and do the zoom ...but it would take an Infinite amount of time to do it.

[walterpthefirst]

2 minutes ago, Reborn_Kingdom_Image said:

Start at 34min and watch it for 5min ...or is that asking too much?

We can draw the Mandelbrot fractals by hand and do the zoom ...but it would take an Infinite amount of time to do it.

 

Yes RKI, in the light of Romans 13 : 1 - 7 and 1 Peter 3 : 15, that is asking too much.

 

1 Peter 3 : 15

 

But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,

 

You are adept at dodging direct questions.

 

Yet scripture itself instructs you to give answers to everyone who asks.

 

Your claim that the infinite fractal requires a designer is directly to do with the hope that you have.

 

Therefore, since I have asked you a question about it, you should give an answer.

 

Just as the god-breathed words of scripture say that you should.

 

So, please answer my question.

 

 

By what process of logic do you know that the infinite fractal requires a designer?

[TheRedneckProfessor]

1 hour ago, TheRedneckProfessor said:

 

@Reborn_Kingdom_Image, was Eve motivated by Pride?

 

1 hour ago, Reborn_Kingdom_Image said:

yes, pride is the core of sin.
 

Okay.  So we have established that Eve was motivated by Pride and that Pride is a sin.  Therefore, Eve was motivated by sin.

 

Next question, @Reborn_Kingdom_Image.  When did sin enter into Eve's heart?  Was it before or after she ate the fruit?

[Reborn_Kingdom_Image]

31 minutes ago, TheRedneckProfessor said:

 

Okay.  So we have established that Eve was motivated by Pride and that Pride is a sin.  Therefore, Eve was motivated by sin.

 

Next question, @Reborn_Kingdom_Image.  When did sin enter into Eve's heart?  Was it before or after she ate the fruit?

 

Dude, what part of us being Adam and Eve ...are you not getting?

[walterpthefirst]

Please stop asking new questions and answer the ones you have been asked, RKI.

 

The Bible says that you should do this.

[TheRedneckProfessor]

18 minutes ago, Reborn_Kingdom_Image said:

Dude

@Reborn_Kingdom_Image, when did sin enter into Eve's heart?  Was it before or after she ate of the fruit?

[Reborn_Kingdom_Image]

2 minutes ago, TheRedneckProfessor said:

@Reborn_Kingdom_Image, when did sin enter into Eve's heart?  Was it before or after she ate of the fruit?

 

What Eve? The Garden of Eden is the mind ...temptation happens there.

[Reborn_Kingdom_Image]

This video is around 5min and explains how The Garden was about exile to babylon:
 

 

[TheRedneckProfessor]

9 minutes ago, Reborn_Kingdom_Image said:

What Eve?

1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

8 And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden. 

Genesis 3

 

@Reborn_Kingdom_Image, when did sin enter into Eve's heart?  Was it before or after she ate the fruit?

[Reborn_Kingdom_Image]

2 minutes ago, TheRedneckProfessor said:

1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

8 And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden. 

Genesis 3

 

@Reborn_Kingdom_Image, when did sin enter into Eve's heart?  Was it before or after she ate the fruit?

 

Here is the thing, you don't have HOLY SPIRIT Oil in you ...you are a dead spirit trying to read Scripture ...it doesn't work that way, you can only be literal with it because you are stuck on your animal side ...you are going pay dearly for it.

[TheRedneckProfessor]

11 minutes ago, Reborn_Kingdom_Image said:

Here is the thing

@Reborn_Kingdom_Image, when did sin enter into Eve's heart?  Was it before or after she ate the fruit?

[sdelsolray]

This one is full of himself, folks.

He is also full of pretense and nonsense.

He is deeply infected with a virulent strain of the Christian God Virus©.

 

He merely asserts, dodge questions, bleats particular religious dogma and pretends.  How surprising.

 

Hey, Poster Reborn_Kingdom_Image, tell us the part about how we will be punished by your sky faerie if we don't believe as you do.  That part is funny.  Then you can leave because your mission here will be complete.

[Reborn_Kingdom_Image]

5 minutes ago, TheRedneckProfessor said:

@Reborn_Kingdom_Image, when did sin enter into Eve's heart?  Was it before or after she ate the fruit?

 

When did It say sin entered her heart? Her image was corrupted ...that's why JESUS is the Last Adam with the Fix.

Does anyone get what it takes to actually hold The Reborn Image that SAVES? What do you think satan is tempting you with? How can JESUS Represent you on The Cross unless you have His Image (Blood)?

Ask yourself how many excuses you have to avoid considering that you need a SAVIOR from sin nature.

Eating from the trees of The Garden is choosing how you interpret The Word. Hint: You need GOD'S Presence for The Truth.

Anyone that isn't on GOD'S Plan has pride which is from not being on that Plan. GOD doesn't force His Plan of LIFE, but you are going to get what you asked for if you use your own.

[TheRedneckProfessor]

7 minutes ago, Reborn_Kingdom_Image said:

When did It say sin entered her heart?

Okay.  Let's try a different approach then.  jesus supposedly died to save the world from sin.  But when god supposedly created the world, it was perfect and without sin.  So, when did sin enter into the world?  Was it before or after Eve ate the fruit?

[Reborn_Kingdom_Image]

5 minutes ago, TheRedneckProfessor said:

Okay.  Let's try a different approach then.  jesus supposedly died to save the world from sin.  But when god supposedly created the world, it was perfect and without sin.  So, when did sin enter into the world?  Was it before or after Eve ate the fruit?

 

There was darkness before The Light. Adam was plucked from a time when everyone was idol worshiping. Adam wasn't the first human ...Adam was the first human with the ability to know GOD.

[TheRedneckProfessor]

14 minutes ago, Reborn_Kingdom_Image said:

There was darkness before The Light

Cool story.  When did sin enter the world?  Was it before or after Eve ate the fruit?

[Reborn_Kingdom_Image]

The language of the dead is that of dead spirits (those that refuse to turn away from worldliness) ...the ones that refuse to use GOD'S Plan (Narrow Path | LIFE).

 

a dead spirit from sin is when GOD'S Spirit doesn't have a Love Relationship (Reborn) with a Living spirit. a dead relationship means GOD isn't Gracing you with Understanding of The Truth.

 

atheists don't get Saved by reading The Bible because GOD has to read it to them and that can't happen unless you invite His Presence in. You send an invitation by Repenting your sins.

 

• Everything about GOD is nonsense to a dead spirit.
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• Ask yourself why GOD doesn't show you what i see.
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• You are Free to do something about it ...like Call out to GOD ...but you won't, you want your death of eternal flames.
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• Do you know what a reprobate mind is? it makes you blind. a hardened heart can only handle what is physical in front of them.
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• your books are the fruit from the tree of knowledge.
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• it is man's knowledge handed down through the generations ...how blind are you?
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• your books of man didn't use GOD'S Plan.
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• a tree of knowledge has branches, they build in knowledge the further down the branches you go. your replacement for GOD has gotten more convincing.

[TheRedneckProfessor]

When did sin enter the world,  @Reborn_Kingdom_Image?  How did sin enter the world?

[Reborn_Kingdom_Image]

23 minutes ago, TheRedneckProfessor said:

When did sin enter the world,  @Reborn_Kingdom_Image?  How did sin enter the world?

 

Genesis is GOD telling us about The Test we are in. You want It to be literal ...well, sorry, that's not how this works.

Romans 5:12-14
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.