The Holy Spirit

[Mystique]

 

I have nothing to fear when I die.

 

 

 

 

Nor do I.  While we are alive we are not dead.  Once we are dead we are not.  There is no reason to fear death.  It's like being asleep . . . only without dreams and it lasts much longer.

 

 

This could not be further from the truth. The soul is immortal and eternal.

[TheRedneckProfessor]

 

So in the afterlife I'll become a homosexual succubus spirit doing evil all the time.  Why are we even arguing with this guy. Unless he says there won't be beer there, I'm not seeing the downside.

 

As for the photos, how much for an eight by ten glossy for myself and a half dozen wallet size I can hand out to the doubters?

 

All the spirits in hell are evil. Only Father God and His Son Jesus can restore the soul. You will suffer a miserable existence. If you care to be happy, good and with family in the afterlife, you must return to God.

 

29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,

32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

 

You want to explain how anyone is going to be "with family" in heaven when there is neither marriage, nor giving in marriage?

[mymistake]

 

This could not be further from the truth. The soul is immortal and eternal.

 

 

 

It must be true if delusional people said so.

 

(Our current studies of the brain prove that the mind is a function of the brain.  When brain cells die the part of the mind they created is lost forever.  There is no eternal soul out there waiting to live in heaven.  If you had ever worked with an Alzheimer's patient you would see the mind loss up close.)  

[Mystique]

 

When I was an innocent 9 year old child and loving the Lord, I saw Jesus in white, dressed as a shepherd on the wing of an airplane while it was still boarding.

 

 

John 20:12. And she saw two angels in white sitting, one at the head and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.

 

Jesus had appeared to me in what I believe to be this same white.

[bdp]

My dead family members are gone and I will never see them again - in fact I rarely even think of them anymore, and all of that is fine.  It's the way life is.

[TheRedneckProfessor]

 

 

Think about some of your dreams. Is it so crazy?

 

 

Thinking about some of my dreams, after I awake, is not crazy at all.

 

However, your unsupported assertions (in excess of 100 in about one day on this forum) are something else all together.  They appear quite crazy, delusional and nonsensical.

 

Again, you're dealing with rational thinkers here, not woo woo sprites.

 

Got anything else, Sparky?

 

 

A rational person would not risk their immortal souls by not having faith.

 

A rational person would have to first be convinced that he had an immortal soul.

[sdelsolray]

Further evidence that this one is a delusional nutcase.

[TheRedneckProfessor]

The US government does not spend 60-100 million dollars on things that are not real. Remote viewing and the spirit world are very real.

Appeal to Authority... in case you were wondering which logical fallacy you are committing now.

[TheOutsider]

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.

[Mystique]

 

 

This could not be further from the truth. The soul is immortal and eternal.

 

 

 

It must be true if delusional people said so.

 

(Our current studies of the brain prove that the mind is a function of the brain.  When brain cells die the part of the mind they created is lost forever.  There is no eternal soul out there waiting to live in heaven.  If you had ever worked with an Alzheimer's patient you would see the mind loss up close.)  

 

 

It could not be a delusion because i have shown photographs and videos of the Holy Spirit and human spirits. Don't be fooled, spirits have minds as well..

[Mystique]

 

The Father's voice sounds of greatness not of this world. 

 

Psalm 99:2. The LORD is great in Zion, And He is high above all the peoples.

[Mystique]

Further evidence that this one is a delusional nutcase.

 

There are a number of people on the internet bearing witness and giving testimony to having seen Jesus.

[TheRedneckProfessor]

Mystake (am I pronouncing that correctly?),

 

I refer you to the Eighth Fundamental Truth (The Initial Physical Evidence of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit), which states succinctly, that the initial physical evidence of the baptism of the holy spirit is speaking in other tongues.  The holy spirit does not give any of the gifts of the spirit, nor any of the fruits of the spirit to any individual who has not first demonstrated the baptism and indwelling of the holy spirit by the speaking of tongues.  This is what "initial" "physical" "evidence" means.  

 

Unless you were babbling incoherently upon said airplane, then whatever vision or revelation you had was NOT from the holy spirit.  Furthermore, unless you are currently babbling incoherently, then nothing you have experienced since said airplane comedy has been from the holy spirit.

 

http://www.ag.org/top/beliefs/statement_of_fundamental_truths/sft_full.cfm

[bornagainathiest]

Since this is your experience Mystique, let me correct the title for you to reflect the subjective nature of your message.

 

 

True Story

 

SUBJECTIVE ACCOUNT

 

 

Revelations 12:11. "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony."

 

Joel 2:28. "And it shall come to pass afterward that I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh; your sons and daughters shall prophesy; your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions."

 

When I was an innocent 9 year old child and loving the Lord, I saw Jesus in white, dressed as a shepherd on the wing of an airplane while it was still boarding. I thought someone was playing a trick on me to get me to become highly religious. Then, I became agnostic and was lost for 35 years. And I began hearing, seeing, wrestling with the unseen and witnessing powers of the spirit world. Evil spirits had come into my life as a consequence of my sin.

 

I've lost touch with realty (was deceived) and nearly died at the hands of these devils - both human and demon alike. I've witnessed that the humans lose the memories of their lifetimes, family and friends. They have anger and hatred in their hearts. They have a miserable existence.Their evil will not die without divine restoration of the soul. They are masters at the art of deception. They are in ruins, of no value or worth, and their souls have gone to waste. They thirst for all that only a most loving creator can give them. I have discovered that it is the human and angelic condition that we are evil and wicked without God in the afterlife.

 

Father God reached out to me in my brokenness and I heard Him say, "the battle against good and evil has been here since in the beginning of time." The Father's voice sounds of greatness not of this world. The room was filled with an ancient scent from a world long ago. God had done this to let me know that He was there in the beginning of man's time. God battle's evil through His Son Jesus Christ by delivering souls from the evils of hell.

 

I suffered at the hands of these devils for 7 years until I learned that they were real and hence Jesus as well. This is how Jesus had found me to accept God's grace and begin my undeserving vocation to be an adopted child of God. He left the flock to find that one lost sheep when I saw Him on the wing of that airplane. I prayed to Jesus that He would not leave me here to be evil like these people. He put my deceased mother in spirit behind me. And the most loving scent of her holding me in her bosom as a child came over me. Jesus had done this to let me know that it was her. He was telling me that I would be in heaven with my mother and that He would deliver me from this evil condition known as hell. This is some of the love that God has for us through His Son, Jesus.

 

Luke 15:4-7. What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, 'Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!' I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance.

 

I asked Him who these people were persecuting me. He told me through the Spirit of truth that they were human souls in hell who are without God in the afterlife. I believed the souls to be lost and inquired about them going to heaven. Jesus sent down the Holy Spirit stopping in front of me and pointing at me. He was telling me that I would make atonement for them, close the door to hearing and seeing them, and that He would deliver them from the powers and evils of hell and into heaven.

 

2 Maccabees 12:46. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin.

 

Later, I had a dream were Jesus had removed the anger and hatred from these people's hearts and then changed them back. He was telling me that the work for atonement had been done, but the door to hearing and seeing them still needed to be closed before the offering can be accepted. I praise my Father God and boast of His Son, Jesus Christ. They truly are mighty to save.

 

Also, an angel has made himself known to me. I've had many visions and dreams, some arranged by God and by the powers of the higher angels, guiding me away from sin, in truth, toward salvation. I thank God for my sufferings and wisdom gained. And, I'm looking forward to being with God in heaven, seeing these spirits there and my mom again.

 

 

Please learn the difference between the subjective and the objective.

 

Thank you,

 

BAA.

[TheRedneckProfessor]

 

 

 

 

You have already made the decision not to believe anyone.

 

 

 

If you understand that much then why are you here?

 

 

The devils in hell are so lost that they no longer even know their own names.

 

Mark 5:9King James Version (KJV)

9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.

[bdp]

'god' if one believes in it, has forced us to live in a reality where elementary school children get slaughtered wholesale in their own classrooms, teenage girls in India are gang raped and hanged by their own scarves, preteens in the US and elsewhere are forced into sex trafficking - doesn't sound like the results a 'loving god' would inflict on us.

[Mystique]

Since this is your experience Mystique, let me correct the title for you to reflect the subjective nature of your message.

 

 

True Story

 

SUBJECTIVE ACCOUNT

 

 

Revelations 12:11. "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony."

 

Joel 2:28. "And it shall come to pass afterward that I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh; your sons and daughters shall prophesy; your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions."

 

When I was an innocent 9 year old child and loving the Lord, I saw Jesus in white, dressed as a shepherd on the wing of an airplane while it was still boarding. I thought someone was playing a trick on me to get me to become highly religious. Then, I became agnostic and was lost for 35 years. And I began hearing, seeing, wrestling with the unseen and witnessing powers of the spirit world. Evil spirits had come into my life as a consequence of my sin.

 

I've lost touch with realty (was deceived) and nearly died at the hands of these devils - both human and demon alike. I've witnessed that the humans lose the memories of their lifetimes, family and friends. They have anger and hatred in their hearts. They have a miserable existence.Their evil will not die without divine restoration of the soul. They are masters at the art of deception. They are in ruins, of no value or worth, and their souls have gone to waste. They thirst for all that only a most loving creator can give them. I have discovered that it is the human and angelic condition that we are evil and wicked without God in the afterlife.

 

Father God reached out to me in my brokenness and I heard Him say, "the battle against good and evil has been here since in the beginning of time." The Father's voice sounds of greatness not of this world. The room was filled with an ancient scent from a world long ago. God had done this to let me know that He was there in the beginning of man's time. God battle's evil through His Son Jesus Christ by delivering souls from the evils of hell.

 

I suffered at the hands of these devils for 7 years until I learned that they were real and hence Jesus as well. This is how Jesus had found me to accept God's grace and begin my undeserving vocation to be an adopted child of God. He left the flock to find that one lost sheep when I saw Him on the wing of that airplane. I prayed to Jesus that He would not leave me here to be evil like these people. He put my deceased mother in spirit behind me. And the most loving scent of her holding me in her bosom as a child came over me. Jesus had done this to let me know that it was her. He was telling me that I would be in heaven with my mother and that He would deliver me from this evil condition known as hell. This is some of the love that God has for us through His Son, Jesus.

 

Luke 15:4-7. What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, 'Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!' I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance.

 

I asked Him who these people were persecuting me. He told me through the Spirit of truth that they were human souls in hell who are without God in the afterlife. I believed the souls to be lost and inquired about them going to heaven. Jesus sent down the Holy Spirit stopping in front of me and pointing at me. He was telling me that I would make atonement for them, close the door to hearing and seeing them, and that He would deliver them from the powers and evils of hell and into heaven.

 

2 Maccabees 12:46. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin.

 

Later, I had a dream were Jesus had removed the anger and hatred from these people's hearts and then changed them back. He was telling me that the work for atonement had been done, but the door to hearing and seeing them still needed to be closed before the offering can be accepted. I praise my Father God and boast of His Son, Jesus Christ. They truly are mighty to save.

 

Also, an angel has made himself known to me. I've had many visions and dreams, some arranged by God and by the powers of the higher angels, guiding me away from sin, in truth, toward salvation. I thank God for my sufferings and wisdom gained. And, I'm looking forward to being with God in heaven, seeing these spirits there and my mom again.

 

 

Please learn the difference between the subjective and the objective.

 

Thank you,

 

BAA.

 

Except for the dream I had of Jesus removing the anger and hatred from the devils heart. I was completely awake and vigilant during the entire experience and it would not be considered to be, nor was it in any way subjective.

[mymistake]

 

It could not be a delusion because i have shown photographs and videos of the Holy Spirit and human spirits. 

 

No, you have not.  If you claim that you have this claim is evidence of delusion.

[mymistake]

 

There are a number of people on the internet bearing witness and giving testimony to having seen Jesus.

 

 

 

Testimony doesn't make something true.  

[Mystique]

Mystake (am I pronouncing that correctly?),

 

I refer you to the Eighth Fundamental Truth (The Initial Physical Evidence of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit), which states succinctly, that the initial physical evidence of the baptism of the holy spirit is speaking in other tongues.  The holy spirit does not give any of the gifts of the spirit, nor any of the fruits of the spirit to any individual who has not first demonstrated the baptism and indwelling of the holy spirit by the speaking of tongues.  This is what "initial" "physical" "evidence" means.  

 

Unless you were babbling incoherently upon said airplane, then whatever vision or revelation you had was NOT from the holy spirit.  Furthermore, unless you are currently babbling incoherently, then nothing you have experienced since said airplane comedy has been from the holy spirit.

 

http://www.ag.org/top/beliefs/statement_of_fundamental_truths/sft_full.cfm

 

It was Jesus Christ, the Son of God that I had seen on the wing of that airplane. I know and understand what I saw.

 

Through the Holy Spirit, I have been given the gift of faith, knowledge, and discerning of spirits.

 

1 Corinthians 12:7. But the manifestation of the Holy Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all, for one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophesy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distibuting to each one individually as He wills.

[Mystique]

 

 

There are a number of people on the internet bearing witness and giving testimony to having seen Jesus.

 

 

 

Testimony doesn't make something true.  

 

 

Testimony with photographs and videos generally hold up in a court of law.

[Mystique]

'god' if one believes in it, has forced us to live in a reality where elementary school children get slaughtered wholesale in their own classrooms, teenage girls in India are gang raped and hanged by their own scarves, preteens in the US and elsewhere are forced into sex trafficking - doesn't sound like the results a 'loving god' would inflict on us.

 

This is not the world in which God created for man. This is the world that man made for himself.

[mymistake]

 

 

Testimony with photographs and videos generally hold up in a court of law.

 

 

Usually a court of law doesn't consider issues that violate the known observations of science.

 

 

Okay for the sake of trolling let's pretend Jesus did appear to you.  So what?  This makes you special.  Now you have to tell the whole internet just how special you are.  Because Jesus wearing a white robe and doing a real life cameo is suppose to accomplish something?

[Overcame Faith]

 

True Story

 

Revelations 12:11. "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony."

 

Joel 2:28. "And it shall come to pass afterward that I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh; your sons and daughters shall prophesy; your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions."

 

When I was an innocent 9 year old child and loving the Lord, I saw Jesus in white, dressed as a shepherd on the wing of an airplane while it was still boarding. I thought someone was playing a trick on me to get me to become highly religious. Then, I became agnostic and was lost for 35 years. And I began hearing, seeing, wrestling with the unseen and witnessing powers of the spirit world. Evil spirits had come into my life as a consequence of my sin.

 

I've lost touch with realty (was deceived) and nearly died at the hands of these devils - both human and demon alike. I've witnessed that the humans lose the memories of their lifetimes, family and friends. They have anger and hatred in their hearts. They have a miserable existence.Their evil will not die without divine restoration of the soul. They are masters at the art of deception. They are in ruins, of no value or worth, and their souls have gone to waste. They thirst for all that only a most loving creator can give them. I have discovered that it is the human and angelic condition that we are evil and wicked without God in the afterlife.

 

Father God reached out to me in my brokenness and I heard Him say, "the battle against good and evil has been here since in the beginning of time." The Father's voice sounds of greatness not of this world. The room was filled with an ancient scent from a world long ago. God had done this to let me know that He was there in the beginning of man's time. God battle's evil through His Son Jesus Christ by delivering souls from the evils of hell.

 

I suffered at the hands of these devils for 7 years until I learned that they were real and hence Jesus as well. This is how Jesus had found me to accept God's grace and begin my undeserving vocation to be an adopted child of God. He left the flock to find that one lost sheep when I saw Him on the wing of that airplane. I prayed to Jesus that He would not leave me here to be evil like these people. He put my deceased mother in spirit behind me. And the most loving scent of her holding me in her bosom as a child came over me. Jesus had done this to let me know that it was her. He was telling me that I would be in heaven with my mother and that He would deliver me from this evil condition known as hell. This is some of the love that God has for us through His Son, Jesus.

 

Luke 15:4-7. What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, 'Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!' I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance.

 

I asked Him who these people were persecuting me. He told me through the Spirit of truth that they were human souls in hell who are without God in the afterlife. I believed the souls to be lost and inquired about them going to heaven. Jesus sent down the Holy Spirit stopping in front of me and pointing at me. He was telling me that I would make atonement for them, close the door to hearing and seeing them, and that He would deliver them from the powers and evils of hell and into heaven.

 

2 Maccabees 12:46. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin.

 

Later, I had a dream were Jesus had removed the anger and hatred from these people's hearts and then changed them back. He was telling me that the work for atonement had been done, but the door to hearing and seeing them still needed to be closed before the offering can be accepted. I praise my Father God and boast of His Son, Jesus Christ. They truly are mighty to save.

 

Also, an angel has made himself known to me. I've had many visions and dreams, some arranged by God and by the powers of the higher angels, guiding me away from sin, in truth, toward salvation. I thank God for my sufferings and wisdom gained. And, I'm looking forward to being with God in heaven, seeing these spirits there and my mom again.

I hope everything is okay in your life. If you were able to step back and read these words of yours as I and others read them, you might begin earnestly to rethink where you are with your life. No, people who see that you may be going too far into this "vision" and "mystical" world of yours are not deluded by demons and such as you imagine them to be. That is your mind's way of protecting you from reality by portraying others as having been deceived when, in fact, you are the one who is deceived. And here's the really difficult part for you, and I say it in sincerity and only with a caring attitude, you are deceiving yourself with all of this.

 

I only say this to try to get that deep part of you that is still capable of seeing reality to awaken and to begin taking back control of your conscious self. I hope that just maybe some of my words will reach that part of you.

 

Best of luck to you. I will not be debating theology with you. I will not be ridiculing you and calling you names. Rather, I will be hoping that you find your way back to reality sooner rather than later.

[Mystique]

 

 

 

Testimony with photographs and videos generally hold up in a court of law.

 

 

Usually a court of law doesn't consider issues that violate the known observations of science.

 

 

Okay for the sake of trolling let's pretend Jesus did appear to you.  So what?  This makes you special.  Now you have to tell the whole internet just how special you are.  Because Jesus wearing a white robe and doing a real life cameo is suppose to accomplish something?

 

 

Science is currently gathering evidence to support the afterlife. My testimony is more about God's love and not so much about me.