Thought2Much Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 deleted post Hold on a second... You actually typed out something so incredibly incoherent and batshit insane that you felt it needed to be deleted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornagainathiest Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Since this is your experience Mystique, let me correct the title for you to reflect the subjective nature of your message. True Story SUBJECTIVE ACCOUNT (Snip!) Please learn the difference between the subjective and the objective. Thank you, BAA. Except for the dream I had of Jesus removing the anger and hatred from the devils heart. I was completely awake and vigilant during the entire experience and it would not be considered to be, nor was it in any way subjective. Mystique, All of your sensory experiences are subjective unless they can be independently and objectively verified by others. As I said, you need to learn the difference between what is subjective and what is objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midniterider Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Testimony with photographs and videos generally hold up in a court of law. Usually a court of law doesn't consider issues that violate the known observations of science. Okay for the sake of trolling let's pretend Jesus did appear to you. So what? This makes you special. Now you have to tell the whole internet just how special you are. Because Jesus wearing a white robe and doing a real life cameo is suppose to accomplish something? Science is currently gathering evidence to support the afterlife. My testimony is more about God's love and not so much about me. Why do we need to talk to 'you' about God's love? Why do you need to be his spokesperson? I'll tell you. It's because imaginary beings cannot communicate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Science is currently gathering evidence to support the afterlife. More evidence that you are delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midniterider Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Testimony with photographs and videos generally hold up in a court of law. Usually a court of law doesn't consider issues that violate the known observations of science. Okay for the sake of trolling let's pretend Jesus did appear to you. So what? This makes you special. Now you have to tell the whole internet just how special you are. Because Jesus wearing a white robe and doing a real life cameo is suppose to accomplish something? Science is currently gathering evidence to support the afterlife. My testimony is more about God's love and not so much about me. Do you have a link to this study, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystique Posted October 26, 2015 Author Share Posted October 26, 2015 True Story Revelations 12:11. "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony." Joel 2:28. "And it shall come to pass afterward that I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh; your sons and daughters shall prophesy; your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions." When I was an innocent 9 year old child and loving the Lord, I saw Jesus in white, dressed as a shepherd on the wing of an airplane while it was still boarding. I thought someone was playing a trick on me to get me to become highly religious. Then, I became agnostic and was lost for 35 years. And I began hearing, seeing, wrestling with the unseen and witnessing powers of the spirit world. Evil spirits had come into my life as a consequence of my sin. I've lost touch with realty (was deceived) and nearly died at the hands of these devils - both human and demon alike. I've witnessed that the humans lose the memories of their lifetimes, family and friends. They have anger and hatred in their hearts. They have a miserable existence.Their evil will not die without divine restoration of the soul. They are masters at the art of deception. They are in ruins, of no value or worth, and their souls have gone to waste. They thirst for all that only a most loving creator can give them. I have discovered that it is the human and angelic condition that we are evil and wicked without God in the afterlife. Father God reached out to me in my brokenness and I heard Him say, "the battle against good and evil has been here since in the beginning of time." The Father's voice sounds of greatness not of this world. The room was filled with an ancient scent from a world long ago. God had done this to let me know that He was there in the beginning of man's time. God battle's evil through His Son Jesus Christ by delivering souls from the evils of hell. I suffered at the hands of these devils for 7 years until I learned that they were real and hence Jesus as well. This is how Jesus had found me to accept God's grace and begin my undeserving vocation to be an adopted child of God. He left the flock to find that one lost sheep when I saw Him on the wing of that airplane. I prayed to Jesus that He would not leave me here to be evil like these people. He put my deceased mother in spirit behind me. And the most loving scent of her holding me in her bosom as a child came over me. Jesus had done this to let me know that it was her. He was telling me that I would be in heaven with my mother and that He would deliver me from this evil condition known as hell. This is some of the love that God has for us through His Son, Jesus. Luke 15:4-7. What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, 'Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!' I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance. I asked Him who these people were persecuting me. He told me through the Spirit of truth that they were human souls in hell who are without God in the afterlife. I believed the souls to be lost and inquired about them going to heaven. Jesus sent down the Holy Spirit stopping in front of me and pointing at me. He was telling me that I would make atonement for them, close the door to hearing and seeing them, and that He would deliver them from the powers and evils of hell and into heaven. 2 Maccabees 12:46. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin. Later, I had a dream were Jesus had removed the anger and hatred from these people's hearts and then changed them back. He was telling me that the work for atonement had been done, but the door to hearing and seeing them still needed to be closed before the offering can be accepted. I praise my Father God and boast of His Son, Jesus Christ. They truly are mighty to save. Also, an angel has made himself known to me. I've had many visions and dreams, some arranged by God and by the powers of the higher angels, guiding me away from sin, in truth, toward salvation. I thank God for my sufferings and wisdom gained. And, I'm looking forward to being with God in heaven, seeing these spirits there and my mom again. I hope everything is okay in your life. If you were able to step back and read these words of yours as I and others read them, you might begin earnestly to rethink where you are with your life. No, people who see that you may be going too far into this "vision" and "mystical" world of yours are not deluded by demons and such as you imagine them to be. That is your mind's way of protecting you from reality by portraying others as having been deceived when, in fact, you are the one who is deceived. And here's the really difficult part for you, and I say it in sincerity and only with a caring attitude, you are deceiving yourself with all of this. I only say this to try to get that deep part of you that is still capable of seeing reality to awaken and to begin taking back control of your conscious self. I hope that just maybe some of my words will reach that part of you. Best of luck to you. I will not be debating theology with you. I will not be ridiculing you and calling you names. Rather, I will be hoping that you find your way back to reality sooner rather than later. I do not believe that others are deluded by demons. Although, others have come to believe the lies of this world. I speak the truth. I have seen the reality of the spirit world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yunea Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Wait, you became agnostic after you saw Jesus? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted October 26, 2015 Super Moderator Share Posted October 26, 2015 Mystake (am I pronouncing that correctly?), I refer you to the Eighth Fundamental Truth (The Initial Physical Evidence of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit), which states succinctly, that the initial physical evidence of the baptism of the holy spirit is speaking in other tongues. The holy spirit does not give any of the gifts of the spirit, nor any of the fruits of the spirit to any individual who has not first demonstrated the baptism and indwelling of the holy spirit by the speaking of tongues. This is what "initial" "physical" "evidence" means. Unless you were babbling incoherently upon said airplane, then whatever vision or revelation you had was NOT from the holy spirit. Furthermore, unless you are currently babbling incoherently, then nothing you have experienced since said airplane comedy has been from the holy spirit. http://www.ag.org/top/beliefs/statement_of_fundamental_truths/sft_full.cfm It was Jesus Christ, the Son of God that I had seen on the wing of that airplane. I know and understand what I saw. Through the Holy Spirit, I have been given the gift of faith, knowledge, and discerning of spirits. 1 Corinthians 12:7. But the manifestation of the Holy Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all, for one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophesy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distibuting to each one individually as He wills. Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 1 John 4:1 Mystake, Please tell us exactly how you tested the "spirit" that is in you. Explain to us the exact method you used to try this "spirit" to see if it was from god. Thanks, TRP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornagainathiest Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Mystique, Go read 1 Kings 19 : 8 - 18 and explain to me how Elijah's experiences at Horeb could be independently and objectively verified. Not accepted by faith as true, but verified by facts, data and evidence that are independent of the Bible. Nor accepted by dreams, visions or spiritual experiences that you or anyone else has had. Objective facts, data and evidence, please. Get back to me on this whenever you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midniterider Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 In the book of Crockashit 10:15 it is written, "Just because it is written and has been assigned a chapter and verse does not mean it has worth. Lo! It may be total BS" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystique Posted October 26, 2015 Author Share Posted October 26, 2015 Since this is your experience Mystique, let me correct the title for you to reflect the subjective nature of your message. True Story SUBJECTIVE ACCOUNT (Snip!) Please learn the difference between the subjective and the objective. Thank you, BAA. Except for the dream I had of Jesus removing the anger and hatred from the devils heart. I was completely awake and vigilant during the entire experience and it would not be considered to be, nor was it in any way subjective. Mystique, All of your sensory experiences are subjective unless they can be independently and objectively verified by others. As I said, you need to learn the difference between what is subjective and what is objective. My wife I have have seen both seen the same spirits at the same time. Also, an experience does not have to be independently and objectively verified by others to be objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornagainathiest Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Since this is your experience Mystique, let me correct the title for you to reflect the subjective nature of your message. True Story SUBJECTIVE ACCOUNT (Snip!) Please learn the difference between the subjective and the objective. Thank you, BAA. Except for the dream I had of Jesus removing the anger and hatred from the devils heart. I was completely awake and vigilant during the entire experience and it would not be considered to be, nor was it in any way subjective. Mystique, All of your sensory experiences are subjective unless they can be independently and objectively verified by others. As I said, you need to learn the difference between what is subjective and what is objective. My wife I have have seen both seen the same spirits at the same time. Also, an experience does not have to be independently and objectively verified by others to be objective. I cannot accept your claims without evidence that is independent of you, Mystique. You could tell me that 500 or 5,000 people witnessed these spirits and I would still have to reject your claim - because you are the one making it in this forum. Please tell me that you understand the principle involved here..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Troll. Keeps jumping to the next outrageous thing to spur it on. Spirit pics Gods big wheel Lesbian dead guys or something Govt alien heads whatever It was fun. But it got old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystique Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 Wait, you became agnostic after you saw Jesus? I thought that someone in the plane was using a holographic projector to produce the image at first. But when I looked behind me, there was nothing unusual to be seen. Today, I realize that holographic technology was not even that advanced back in the early 70's. All the time I was agnostic I told people that it may or may not have been Him. It wasn't until I got swamped by evil spirits that I realized the spirit world was indeed real and Jesus as well. This is how Jesus had found me as in the parable of the lost sheep. When I saw Him He was dressed as a shepherd with a long staff that a shepherd uses to gather His sheep. He did the work 35 years in advance when I saw Him on the wing of that airplane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythra Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 "Science is currently gathering evidence to support the afterlife." Yeah, sure. That's why 93% of the National Academy of Sciences (2,000 of the top scientists in America) are atheists. Cognitive neuroscience has destroyed any notion of consciousness surviving the death of the brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythra Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Mystique: are you familiar with the term "hallucination"? Do you think very real people ever see things that are not real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I have nothing to fear when I die. [/color] Ironically correct 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythra Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I'm not afraid of death either. And if you saw how I drive, you'd know I ain't lyin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystique Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 Here is another objective photograph of the Holy Spirit in bodily form. Here is a painting of the Holy Spirit in bodily form alighting and remaining upon a saint. The Halo is found in scripture as the Holy Spirit (Spirit of God) in bodily form alighting an remaining upon Jesus. Luke 3:22. And the Holy Spirit descended in bodily form like a dove upon Him, and a voice came from heaven which said, "You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased." Mathew 3:16. When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him." John 1:32. John testified saying, "I have seen the Spirit descending as a dove out of heaven, and He remained upon Him." The Holy Spirit in bodily form alighting and remaining upon Jesus appeared as a Halo. The photograph at top is of the same Holy Spirit that descended upon Jesus during His baptism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator florduh Posted October 27, 2015 Super Moderator Share Posted October 27, 2015 Do I need to post that Bigfoot video again? Don't make me pull out the Bigfoot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Further evidence that this one is a delusional nutcase. There are a number of people on the internet bearing witness and giving testimony to having seen Jesus. Regardless, based on the evidence of your posts on this forum, I conclude you are a delusional nutcase. As to those other people, I have no opinion on their mental health because I have no evidence concerning their mental health. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 There are a number of people on the internet bearing witness and giving testimony to having seen Jesus. Testimony doesn't make something true. Testimony with photographs and videos generally hold up in a court of law. The Legal Eagle speaks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midniterider Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 The US government does not spend 60-100 million dollars on things that are not real. Remote viewing and the spirit world are very real. If it were real, there would be photographs, at least. Maybe a video too. Hell, everybody knows that. Project Stargate was a remote viewing spy program and as such had to be top secret.. I believe Stargate was abandoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Troll. Keeps jumping to the next outrageous thing to spur it on. Spirit pics Gods big wheel Lesbian dead guys or something Govt alien heads whatever It was fun. But it got old He's starting to repeat his material (compare his first post in this thread with his recent post in his third thread): Compare http://www.ex-christian.net/topic/70188-photographs-of-the-holy-spirit/?p=1073978 with http://www.ex-christian.net/topic/70213-my-experience-with-the-spirit-world-gods-love/?p=1074681 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midniterider Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Mystique, stand down. We want to hear directly from the holy spirt, not you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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